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Pokemon Discussion Thread - Red & Blue arc
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The link in this post seems incorrect.
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...Oh, sorry. Fixed it!
Sniper670
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My justification for NEP 2, quite frankly, needs some work, and some other stuff. I was under the impression the Chaos was simply Nothingness, but that ain't right. Can I make some changes to the current crt? Here's the draft? Let me know to change stuff
Primordial Chaos(Wuji) in Pokemon is the state of emptiness, devoid of distinction, prior to the birth of the Supreme Ultimate. Whether existence, or nonexistence, it is the Totality of all existence. As the scans said, everything "exists" within it, but separation does not exist, as it's simply a giant formless One.
Within The Heart (Taiji) everything was mixed, being likened to how Pokémon and Humans used to be one and the same. Time, Space, substance, nothingness, anything and everything were one and the same existence, with no seperation. In other words, it was none of them. Which is why they were created.. They were all unified as a whole
Arceus was born at the heart of Chaos where everything becomes one. It only expands from there. It shares that nature
Conclusion
This is pretty straightforward for those who understand the terms I used here. Whatever we give to being Taiji on the wiki is given to Llama.
1. Transduality Type 2. It existed as One unified entity, bereft of seperation. It's expansion led to the creation of seperation of things. But they're all connected, in a state of all in one and one in all. It's nature is defined by lacking any seperation. Transcendent of reality
Acausality type 5 . Same as above. Except in relation to the laws of cause and effect
Nonexistent physiology Nature 2 Aspect type 1,2,3,5. Same as above, except in relation to Existence and Nonexistence, any and all concepts including time, space, nothing,spirit etc.
Primordial Chaos(Wuji) in Pokemon is the state of emptiness, devoid of distinction, prior to the birth of the Supreme Ultimate. Whether existence, or nonexistence, it is the Totality of all existence. As the scans said, everything "exists" within it, but separation does not exist, as it's simply a giant formless One.
Within The Heart (Taiji) everything was mixed, being likened to how Pokémon and Humans used to be one and the same. Time, Space, substance, nothingness, anything and everything were one and the same existence, with no seperation. In other words, it was none of them. Which is why they were created.. They were all unified as a whole
Arceus was born at the heart of Chaos where everything becomes one. It only expands from there. It shares that nature
Conclusion
This is pretty straightforward for those who understand the terms I used here. Whatever we give to being Taiji on the wiki is given to Llama.
1. Transduality Type 2. It existed as One unified entity, bereft of seperation. It's expansion led to the creation of seperation of things. But they're all connected, in a state of all in one and one in all. It's nature is defined by lacking any seperation. Transcendent of reality
Acausality type 5 . Same as above. Except in relation to the laws of cause and effect
Nonexistent physiology Nature 2 Aspect type 1,2,3,5. Same as above, except in relation to Existence and Nonexistence, any and all concepts including time, space, nothing,spirit etc.
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When you start talking about the Heart, you should add a bit of context. It seems that you are still referring to Arceus, while it is not true since that heart is the one created by the LT (i.e. the spirit) to bind the space-time.
I would also avoid comments about the "perception of the world", since it is still unclear with the little information that we have, and since it is not necessary for the aims of the CRT.
It would also be better to change some of the sources that you used. In some cases they are not so related to what you want to support. Moreover, I suggest also not using this source, is not particularly useful since it is not very clear and is not from the main games. There is better material from PLA that can do the same work if not better.
I would also avoid comments about the "perception of the world", since it is still unclear with the little information that we have, and since it is not necessary for the aims of the CRT.
It would also be better to change some of the sources that you used. In some cases they are not so related to what you want to support. Moreover, I suggest also not using this source, is not particularly useful since it is not very clear and is not from the main games. There is better material from PLA that can do the same work if not better.
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1. I'm not sure how to handle that. Thing is, everyone and everything is the Heart. I guess I'll just make that distinction that it's Arceus when linking the source
2. Yh. It's not so relevant anyway.
3. Eh, which ones exactly. I'll change that. That's from PMD but it's no different from what was mentioned in PLA anyway..
Edit: If you meant time and space being in that newborn spirit meant humans, that's not true is it
There's Llama, who's body was housing the potentiality of creation, time and space, that's not humans.
2. Yh. It's not so relevant anyway.
3. Eh, which ones exactly. I'll change that. That's from PMD but it's no different from what was mentioned in PLA anyway..
Edit: If you meant time and space being in that newborn spirit meant humans, that's not true is it
There's Llama, who's body was housing the potentiality of creation, time and space, that's not humans.
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Pixie and Legend it looks like. Not 100% sure on that though.
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Yes, I mean them.
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So, I've heard about a couple of feats that could give juicy upgrades, and wanted to know if any of you knew anything about them?
- Arceus creating GameFreak, who wrote the plot in universe (Plothax for Llama)
- Suicune time traveling via speed (Immeasurable speed for most/all Legendaries and Mythicals)
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GF canonical exists in the game so that'll work. Seems wankish, which is why I never took it too seriously
Mystery Dungeon most likely. I don't remember which version tho
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I think that'll be treated as 4th wall breaking, and, as thus, no plot hax for Llamagod
I remember someone made a CRT about it, and it was agreed as time travel.
For some reason, it's not on its profile, so idk
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You're right. How will they treat the player playing Ruby and sapphire tho
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Basis for in-universe GameFreak manipulating the plot? I'd assume our Reality-Fiction rules preclude in-universe GameFreak from controlling the plot.
What do they have to do with this?
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No pokemon still got immeasurable speed
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Iirc there was also something about manga Suicune. I may be wrong, though
What do you mean?
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At the beginning of Omega Ruby, the player was playing Pokémon Ruby.
Is that also 4th wall?
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They directly stated they wrote the plot, IIRC.
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Most likely yeah
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Yeah, it doesn't seem like plot manipulation.
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Yes. It's High 6-A, via parting clouds. To be fair, it was essentially running on fumes from a legendary that was at only 1% power (IIRC), and it has extreme damage falloff.Just curious but I want to ask If we have a calc about the ultimate weapon from Pokemon X/Y?
Since I thought it could be a good supporting feat on the verse page.
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But has someone here put the calculation in a blog or not?
I say this because the only calculation of the feat that I have seen is external to this forum.
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None on the forum. Only the external one.
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Also I want to ask What legendaries would this feat scale to?
Besides from Xerneas, Zygarde and Yveltal obviously.
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None that I know of. All three got much bigger feats (IIRC, Xerneas has a 5-A feat Yveltal scales directly to, and Zygarde has some Tier 4 stuff... And that is without scaling them to Necrozma. But it's long since they were below Tier 3, so I may be wrong), and anyone scaling to those three would scale to those bigger feats as well.
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If Pokémon does introduce higher dimensions(which I have a good feeling about) judging by how scientific/multidimensional/Extraterrestrial the verse has been getting since Sun/Moon, Arceus will definitely be in top 5 in tier 1 area, assuming TD 2, Aca 2 and Nep 2 gets passed as well
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Cause I heard people(external) saying that pokemons like Groudon/Kyogre(Especially Primal) scale to the ultimate weapon´s feat.
Also what are that 5-A and 4-tier feats?
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Ugh it's gonna be useless then...
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Arceus would dogwalk almost everybody in tier 1 if it has 5D hax(they only brought it up because no one wants a pokémon feasting on the entire sonic verse
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