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Persona General Revisions Part 1: Tiers and General Statistics
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I remember discussing this some time ago, and I remember agreeing with the notion that Palaces are universes.
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I don't agree. I think the statement is just that they reflect the dude's perception of the world and themselves.
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It does mention but those stuffs aren't in the Palaces necessarily.
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Kinda iffy on Class M LS since I don't recall any PT physically pushing her away or anything like that. Rest seems fine.
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Than they would be utterly irrelevant to a discussion about palaces. Yet, they still talk about it.
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What are you talking about? The entire Metaverse and the individual palaces are not the same thing. The former is outright stated to be parallel to the Human World several times whereas the later are personal.
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I'm talking about the actual scans posted in the OP to justify this, which talk about palaces and the nature of it's distortions. Nothing about the metaverse overall is really brought up, beyond Shido saying that whoever has a palace was banished from Mementos.
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Yeah. And I don't think they're talking about anything that confirms full universal size.
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There's a statement from the director that confirms Kamoshida's Palace is placed in a world parallel to the Human World.
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... Palaces are in the Metaverse so yes?
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I guess you could say that "world" is an infamously vague word to use and they may just mean the planet instead of the entire universe anyways.
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Yes, but each Palace is within their own separate dimension and this goes in line with all the other scans we've provided that say Palaces are parallel to the Human World.
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That in itself basically shows that Palaces are parallel worlds to the human world.
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wouldnt that make it a pocket universe? and Im pretty sure palaces aren’t pocket universes
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have there ever been universes where it was just earth? afaik it’s always a universe
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It could just not be the entire universe when they refer to "world". I'm asking for proof that world means universe in this case.
Heck, Persona itself makes this distinction with The World and The Universe being treated as two distinct Arcana.
Heck, Persona itself makes this distinction with The World and The Universe being treated as two distinct Arcana.
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Yes but Universe and the World don’t even have a difference with Joker who doesn’t even get the world aracana being arguably the strongest
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The English language doesn't care. I asked for proof that the human world refers to the entire universe, and your responses thus far have been "It's a universe so obviously it's a universe", despite universe never being mentioned in any of the scans justifying this. It only says world, which can be anything from a planet to a universe, and needs further context for it to be determined.
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Im gonna let another person explain it to you since I don’t have the link to scans and stuff
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They scale outside the distortion, again, it's a mirror of the real world and everything in it. When the Palace crumbles, you cannot go back it. Not the castle, the entire Palace.
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The real world meaning the universe. Yusuke says there is a universe in his social link, and once more, multiple characters state that
Palaces are a reflection of the real world (universe). Morgana literally says the whole world is made of Cognition. It doesn't stop it 4-A, because there were cognitive stars in Okumura's Palace, when the initial distortion was a building into a space station. It was also the Palace before Shido's, which has the same thing.
Maki (Persona 1) created a universe based off her own desires as stated by Nanjo, Philemon says that the souls, minds, and desires of humans easily have the power to manipulate & create realities, Maruki says that EVERYONE has a cognitive world (which is essentially just a Palace), and Yusuke follows up this fact saying that they've always existed and no one knows it (but said person).
Palaces are a reflection of the real world (universe). Morgana literally says the whole world is made of Cognition. It doesn't stop it 4-A, because there were cognitive stars in Okumura's Palace, when the initial distortion was a building into a space station. It was also the Palace before Shido's, which has the same thing.
Maki (Persona 1) created a universe based off her own desires as stated by Nanjo, Philemon says that the souls, minds, and desires of humans easily have the power to manipulate & create realities, Maruki says that EVERYONE has a cognitive world (which is essentially just a Palace), and Yusuke follows up this fact saying that they've always existed and no one knows it (but said person).
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(Milly basically said what I was gonna say, but posting the scans won't hurt)
Often more than not, "world" is synonymous with reality in the Persona verse, or even existence in one instance with Maruki. More often than not, when a character claims they will "affect all of reality" or "mirroring reality", it's often used in the context of the universe. Morgana has also said that the entire world is made up of cognition, and Yusuke has referred to it as the universe.
https://sta.sh/01yc7ui4y5c6 - Reality is used in the context of the universe within the verse by Philemon
- Reality and the world are synonymous, as shown with Lavenza and numerous other characters.
- The whole Maruki bit
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Persona 1 & 2 is connected to Persona 3 and is said to be in an interview, I'm not sure who started that misconception considering Tatsuya's brother exists in P5.
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Search up Katsuya Suou Persona 5 tv broadcast or something along those lines. Also, here, first note.
vsbattles.fandom.com
Solacis/Sandbox
vsbattles.fandom.com
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Hm...
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Well? Does everything add up now Matt?
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So what's the consensus right now? I missed out on quite a bit since, as said before, my main Discord account got nuked (so I was no longer in the Persona revision server) and I'm pretty late to this CRT all things considered
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Well, depending on what Matt's "Hmm..." means, there's a good chance this will all get approved. I am honest to god hoping that is the case.
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