Overlord General Discussion Mk. VII

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Tbf only shalltear demuirge and ainz have much in the way of feats at least amongst the top teirs, climbs gotten some attention recently as well.

 

[Apeironaxim]

kinda surprised no one uses Cure

 

[InfiniteSped]

He's 2 busted

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

True his killing move doesn't have the twelve second timer of ainz own ultimate kill move and it ee

 

[Apeironaxim]

also apparently his soul absorb scales to 5 mil people, going by the profile

was the exact number ever stated?

or just "at least" 5 mil, as a guess?

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

5 mil should be Keeno's country, I think Ainz said it affected other countries.

 

[InfiniteSped]

He had around 1,5 million undead in total, iirc. But he didn't kill all of them at once, so no way to know how many.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

I think it was based on the size of evileyes country being 5 mill but I could be wrong like i said in the past I dislike the evileye side story and have only read it twice.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Among the many races―the Rainbow-Eyes making up 90% of this comparison ― a nation of 5 million people was not too big. However, it was only because the surrounding countries were roughly the same size that a balance could be achieved.

So, if we take size to mean somewhat similar population too, then that's more than 5 mil

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

Mind manipulation page says that the potency is the amount of people as well as type of ability. The soul page does not.

 

[Apeironaxim]

i swear i've seen people talking about the potency of soul manip through how many people it worked on

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

I think I saw it too, but it was probably Overlord related.

 

[InfiniteSped]

Seemed more like a huge AoE that works on people below a certain level. Doesn't seem like the kinda thing he could focus to work on an opponent with better resistances.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Nah there's been discussion for a long time on how to judge the potency of soul hax, even a couple threads on iirc I think we use number of people but many aren't sure thats actually a good measuring stick as unlike mindhax you aren't dominating anything, your simply effecting souls and its argued if potency should really be judged in such a way. From what little I know its a contentious subject.

 

[Apeironaxim]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3302038

According to this before it went off the rails

soul hax is like mindhax, where potency is based on number of souls effected

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

It doesn't have as much of a strong backlash as I expected so I guess it's fine.

 

[InfiniteSped]

Shouldn't Shizu have resistance to Status Effects like Blindness?

Perhaps it was because he had been hurt and realized that he would lose if hedid not defeat Shizu first, but the henchman demon focused all its attacks onShizu. In addition, it kept casting ÒÇîBlindnessÒÇì spells on her, trying to disableher like it had Neia, but she resisted all of them, so they had no effect.

 

[FDrybob]

That should be fine to add.

 

[InfiniteSped]

Should all of them have it? Feels like they should . . .

 

[Apeironaxim]

In addition, this spell also generated all kinds of negative status effects such as poisoning, blindness, deafness, and so on, but anything of the Evil Lord's level would be able to resist it with their raw statistics alone and the Pleiades' equipment ought to have made them immune to all these effects.

This gives them some resistances

And just in case someone tries to make the argument that AP = Hax resistance or whatever in Overlord from this, that's not what Ainz means

As you acquire Job and Racial classes, you gain resistances and immunities, as well as weaknesses. What Ainz is saying is that the Evil Lord has enough levels to have acquired a resistance to these effects already, just like how every high level player should have death resistance or immunity through either gear or Job/Racial levels

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

It's okay to add, I think people forgot poison resistance due to level. There is a difference between Climb and Brain

 

[Apeironaxim]

Ainz ffs why won't you name all the status effects so we can have more resistances

So yeah, i think Resistance to poison, blindness, and deafness should be for all the Pleiades, and anything Evil Lord's level or higher

Does that sound good?

 

[InfiniteSped]

ye

 

[Apeironaxim]

Would it be worded like this?

Resistance to Perception Manipulation (Blindness and Deafness)?

As well as a resistance to poison of course

>notices Ainz doesn't have it either

guess who's getting more resistances boys

 

[InfiniteSped]

Shouldn't it be a type of Status Effect Inducement?

 

[Apeironaxim]

so put all of them under Resistance to Status Effect Inducement?

 

[InfiniteSped]

Should work.

 

[Apeironaxim]

mkay

time to edit like 15 profiles

 

[InfiniteSped]

wait for the week long CRT first

 

[Apeironaxim]

that reminds me

does this need a CRT?

or is it obvious and/or small enough to not need one?

 

[InfiniteSped]

I was surprised they didn't have it already. It's pretty explicit, so it should be fine, prob.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Done

 

[InfiniteSped]

Because . . . she's isn't?

 

[Apeironaxim]

Why isn't narberal gamma noted as being undead?

Probably because she isn't

ninja'd

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

I was thinking of yuri, sorry all.

 

[Apeironaxim]

If you mean the categories, Yuri is

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

I know I had the two sisters confused

 

[InfiniteSped]

Yuri does mess with the minds of me

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Yuri does mess with the minds of men

I claim this as my excuse

 

[Apeironaxim]