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One Punch Man: Sage Centipede and Evil Ocean Water High 6-A Upgrade
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In addition to overwhelming non staff agreement but I guess that doesn’t really matter
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@ZillertheBucko I meant any other staff that has voting power on CRTs.
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"Likely" due to the lack of actual feats. Individually, it's possible for each of them to be inferior to Psykorochi and it's not like God sent them in for 1-on-1 duels with Saitama, but to tagteam him together.
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How would 2 6-A beings be able to even last a nanosecond against someone who can effortlessly turn a nearly moon level character into paste? That doesn’t hold up in the slightest.
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But that's just how scaling chains go, when a character lacks better feats but we know they are superior they just straight up scale above them. Case in point Psykorochi scaling above Orochi despite her Earth-Slicing feat being inferior to Orochi's Gaia Cannon.
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I didn't say they should be just 6-A.
I think the best rating for them both would be "At least 6-A, likely High 6-A".
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I agree with a likely rating for Damage's reasons.
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Me when I massively upscale from 6-A but somehow I am not capable of lasting against someone who can turn the nearly moon level character into paste
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"Confidence scaling" isn't the best method ever for solid ratings.
Remember that Garou witnessed what Overgrown Rover was capable of, went in to attack him, and ended up not leaving a scratch on him. So much for his "confidence".
A "Likely" rating is fine for these two.
Remember that Garou witnessed what Overgrown Rover was capable of, went in to attack him, and ended up not leaving a scratch on him. So much for his "confidence".
A "Likely" rating is fine for these two.
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Even if for some inexplicable reason you cut their AP in half due to them being a tat team, they’d still be 2.34 exatons and still be high 6-A
even if you cut it 10 times I’m pretty sure that’s still high 6-A
Nobody was proposing a likely rating. It’s a full rating, that should just be the end of it. This shouldn’t even be a discussion.
Sage centipede: At least high 6-A
Evil ocean: at least high 6-A
this has literally always been the case.
even if you cut it 10 times I’m pretty sure that’s still high 6-A
Nobody was proposing a likely rating. It’s a full rating, that should just be the end of it. This shouldn’t even be a discussion.
Sage centipede: At least high 6-A
Evil ocean: at least high 6-A
Being proven wrong doesn’t affect the validity of confidence scaling. If someone witnesses a 7-B attack and is still confident, then the enemy pulling out a 7-A attack doesn’t stop them from scaling to 7-B
this has literally always been the case.
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But it's not "confidence scaling" these two beings were explicitly sent to kill Saitama after God had witnessed Tatsumaki destroy Psykorochi. How is it vague enough to not grant a full rating?
Hell if it's that important they work in tandem then we can scale both to half, though that really doesn't make much sense since they would still be oneshot by Tatsumaki
Hell if it's that important they work in tandem then we can scale both to half, though that really doesn't make much sense since they would still be oneshot by Tatsumaki
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Yeah but, didn't literal God create both SC and EOW?
Edit: in reference to Damage
Edit: in reference to Damage
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Yes, God is a fairly reliable source.
the events were literally prophecized too
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Nobody has to propose it for that to be what is accepted.
Currently there are two staff votes for it.
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So why should the same old "confidence scaling faulty" apply here, when it's literally God, who knows about this stuffYeah Sage Centipede himself was formed from Orochi's remains at God's altar
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And currently two staff are completely wrong.
Sage centipede quite literally popped directly out of Orochi’s goo. I quite literally cannot comprehend how anything except a solid rating is justified here.
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I also kind of don't understand why there can't be full scale, the rationale is more than solid enough to get full scale.
I mean, why would God trade a damn 5.68 Exatons monster for a measly continent-level pair with an AP difference greater than 1000x? God is not dumb.
I mean, why would God trade a damn 5.68 Exatons monster for a measly continent-level pair with an AP difference greater than 1000x? God is not dumb.
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Let's go over my arguments again so I don't have to type over and over again:
God himself empowered Psykorochi during their fusion as explained on this sequence:
Tatsumaki obliterated Psykorochi on a cellular level after getting serious. God undoubtedly witnessed this event.
Later on, after Tatsumaki impales Orochi near God's altar, which very clearly lines up with the "worthy sacrifice" prophecy
Much later on, while Garou is fighting Platinum Sperm and Flashy Flash we see what's going on underground:
And when they both appear, Sage Centipede literally says this:
"Suffer divine retribution and destruction!"
Who the **** else but God sent them? And who is this "Abominable Fist that turned against God"? Garou and the name of Chapter 164 "The Abominable fist that turned against God" make it clear to us
God sent them both to kill Saitama, there is no reason they should be weaker than Psykorochi. They should pretty clearly be "At least High 6-A"
God himself empowered Psykorochi during their fusion as explained on this sequence:
Tatsumaki obliterated Psykorochi on a cellular level after getting serious. God undoubtedly witnessed this event.
Later on, after Tatsumaki impales Orochi near God's altar, which very clearly lines up with the "worthy sacrifice" prophecy
Much later on, while Garou is fighting Platinum Sperm and Flashy Flash we see what's going on underground:
Sage Centipede is formed from Orochi's remains while Evil Natural Water merges with the ocean
And when they both appear, Sage Centipede literally says this:
"Suffer divine retribution and destruction!"
Who the **** else but God sent them? And who is this "Abominable Fist that turned against God"? Garou and the name of Chapter 164 "The Abominable fist that turned against God" make it clear to us
God sent them both to kill Saitama, there is no reason they should be weaker than Psykorochi. They should pretty clearly be "At least High 6-A"
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@Recon1511 Your arguments would a "Likely High 6-A" rating as far as I can tell by our current standards.
The "At least 6-A" part comes from the pair of them demonstrably having 6-A feats/calcs. This isn't a limitation, you guys. By having "At least" it shows they can be far stronger than that, which the "Likely High 6-A" bit explains roughly where they'd be. There's just not confirmation for a full rating.
The "At least 6-A" part comes from the pair of them demonstrably having 6-A feats/calcs. This isn't a limitation, you guys. By having "At least" it shows they can be far stronger than that, which the "Likely High 6-A" bit explains roughly where they'd be. There's just not confirmation for a full rating.
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I think that "At least 6-A, likely High 6-A" is the best option, and Maverick seems to agree with me. You're welcome to get other staff input though.
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Why though..?
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He very directly scales above orochi via literally coming from his sacrificed remains
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Okay I'm a little confused here, by "stronger than Orochi" refer to both Psychorochi and Orochi, or just Orochi
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I just explained why.
You don't have to agree with me, but I'm not going to repeat myself again and again.
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God himself made Psykorochi and then proceeded to send Sage and ocean
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Should be noted that out of the 2, Saitama attacked Evil ocean instead of Sage. I would assume it implied he was more of a threat.
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Not sure about that
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I mean a titanic amount of Ocean Water would be harder to dispose of wouldn't it?
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This is actually ridiculous sorry, this is one of the most straightforward revisions to occur in the past few months and somehow people are pulling a “I’ll settle for a likely” out of nowhere
seriously
seriously
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While I have no right to say anything meaningful, I will say it's just straight forward, no compromises. Everything is laid out, the explanations are straight forward, there's no reason to play it "safe" like this.
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Pretty sure you’re a knowledgeable enough member
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