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The idea is that Golden Sperm scales above Homeless Emperor's individual strikes, which were calculated at 7-B+
I will count you for P1, however.
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One-Punch Man CRT: Sun Blade Scaling
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I will count you for P1, however.
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One hit that had multiple hits following after
One hit that had multiple hits following after
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I don't think so.
Let's say it requires a certain amount of energy to fragement an entire boulder; breaking it into tiny shards.
Would someone scale to that if they simply sliced the boulder in two with an incredibly sharp blade?
I'm not saying they didn't affect it at all. Every attack had to affect it by some degree for their combined result to be able to disperse it. But that doesn't make his striking strength or his AP equal to the full ball.
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The boulder is not energy and would not simply "regenerate" if a blade passed through it. I believe yall weebs call it Logia intangibility
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I don't know if we even know that the energy ball would "regenerate" as you say.
We don't have a lot of info to go off for this.
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Alright, that makes sense. Let's try this then. If someone where to cut someone with 7-A durability, they would become 7-A, no? The orbs also have 7-A dura, so why can't he scale?
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There's legit no real reason to assume AS attacked varied, this is just going into baseless speculation.
AS destroyed the sphere, no reason to assume his attack suddenly lowered unless something in verse suggested that it was.
I'm not interested in any upscaling or something. But if AS is scaling to it, GS should scale to it as well. Since he blocked those attack, and was confident in breaking the blade despite it cutting into his body. After that the Sun Blade acted different and sliced his arm off.
That attack is really the only one that appears to be stronger than his previous attacks. Like I said earlier, I'm fine with either full scaling or no scaling. Multiple slices dispersed a High 7-A attack, but multiple slices didn't do any severe damage to GS. The numbers of slashes not matching up exactly is just nitpicking.
AS destroyed the sphere, no reason to assume his attack suddenly lowered unless something in verse suggested that it was.
I'm not interested in any upscaling or something. But if AS is scaling to it, GS should scale to it as well. Since he blocked those attack, and was confident in breaking the blade despite it cutting into his body. After that the Sun Blade acted different and sliced his arm off.
That attack is really the only one that appears to be stronger than his previous attacks. Like I said earlier, I'm fine with either full scaling or no scaling. Multiple slices dispersed a High 7-A attack, but multiple slices didn't do any severe damage to GS. The numbers of slashes not matching up exactly is just nitpicking.
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I know, but going from 68 Megatons to 100 is an unjustified jump.
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A ball made of sheer energy should close itself like that, I think that would be the default assumption, and assuming that it wouldn't would point to it being dense enough to count as solid, and as such cutting it would scale to it.
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We often do that to simplify things for the sake of character to character scaling, because the concept of durability is a messy black hole if you look into it too closely.
But in this case, I don't think we need to do things that way since this is AP to AP scaling in truth, and not really durability.
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Actually, could someone double check what sort of effects HE's attacks have on their targets? If they have a kinetic/pushing sort of effect then managing to cut through one would mean overpowering its AP.
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HE's attacks are always explosive in nature IIRC. When he hit Zombieman with a barrage of them (when the cadres surfaced), Zombieman wasn't knocked backwards, he was just severely injured/reduced to a gory mess.
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That would still count as kinetic, I mostly meant whether it did that or burned things, if it were the latter then what I proposed would not work.
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Sure, but I don't see how that applies when slicing through it before it explodes. There isn't an outward force that Atomic Samurai is matching and overcoming.
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I believe his blast pushed one of Child Emperor’s robots when it hit it, I’ll have to find the scan though.
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Considering the High 7-A calc uses vaporization, I assume it comes from high heat.
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My thoughts are the same.
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They tend to explode upon contact, but the energy pushed its way several kilometers in the High 7-A calc.
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I would expect there to be, actually. I mean, the energy is still there, it's not inert, and an explosion is nothing but kinetic energy in the end (and heat but that doesn't matter here). So them tearing something apart instead of pushing it doesn't really change anything.
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Okay, I found the scan, HE’s blast seems to be pushing Child Emperor’s dog bot forwards, so there is definitely kinetic force behind it.
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I'd prefer to say I'm neutral, I understand both sides and think they both have reasonable thoughts on this.
The only side I disagree with is scaling the Sun Blade's AP down by the amount of slashes it did. I cannot accept something like that.
Either it scales, or it doesn't scale.
The only side I disagree with is scaling the Sun Blade's AP down by the amount of slashes it did. I cannot accept something like that.
Either it scales, or it doesn't scale.
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Noted.
But, at the moment. I can't say that it scales. Not in the way that is being suggested in the OP.
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But yeah generally I think Proposal 1 is straightforward enough.
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Has Asura commented here yet?
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Unless I'm losing my mind, I don't think Asura has commented here?
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Well, while im pessimistic about this getting accepted, you can count me as an agree for proposal 1.
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General Discussion Thread, he's disagreed many times.
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In the OPM discussion thread, these same arguments were brought up multiple times. ByAsura seemed to strongly disagree with scaling the Blade to the sphere for the same reasons as Damage.
Though, maybe after reading through this thread, he will change his mind. I suppose we will just have to wait.
Proposal 2 is actually based off of what ByAsura's suggestion was.
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I see.
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I agree with proposal 1
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