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Technically, this crt is simply created to scale carnage kabuto above beefcake, and adjust all other scaling along with it, the calc value itself is a separated issue that doesn’t change if kabuto>beefcake
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One Punch Man: 7-B Carnage Kabuto scaling
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Kachon's calc has to be fixed first if he intends to still use it, as he said.
So once the calcs have both been evaluated, then we'll hold a discussion on it.
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Is it fine if I just edit my blog and you re-evaluate the math?
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Added a V. Frag end like you did
Here you go
One-Punch Man: Beefcake Makes a Crater
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I have to ask, why doesn't Vaccine Man durability scale to his explosions? Both in the anime and manga he walked out of the epicenter of one of his blasts:
He technically does, but he's specifically scaling to a Town level explosion, not the City level one
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Ok now that’s just obnoxious scaling, it’s pretty obvious that when he’s in the epicenter of an explosion, he’s meant to be able to tank his own blasts
Not every blast has to be calced to 7-B for it to get a point across
Not every blast has to be calced to 7-B for it to get a point across
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Just pointing out why his durability is scaling the way that it is. I fully agree that Vaccine Man's durability should scale to his own 7-B attacks
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I don't see how Vaccine Man is at the center of the blast there.
We see him standing in the crater after the blast has happened, but that doesn't mean he detonated the explosion at his feet. We see him launching other attacks by generating energy balls and throwing them around meaning it's just as likely that he threw the first explosion too then landed in the crater after it had happened.
So where is the proof that the initial explosion happened with in the center of it?
We see him standing in the crater after the blast has happened, but that doesn't mean he detonated the explosion at his feet. We see him launching other attacks by generating energy balls and throwing them around meaning it's just as likely that he threw the first explosion too then landed in the crater after it had happened.
So where is the proof that the initial explosion happened with in the center of it?
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After the explosion cleared we see him inside the crater without indication he moved to that spot
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There's no indication he was in that spot to begin with.
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What?
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The guidebook page even says he “appeared on the surface with an explosion” which implies that he basically just walked out of the first explosion
He was definitely in the center of it
He was definitely in the center of it
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It looks to me like Vaccine Man is standing on top of a pile of debris. If Vaccine Man detonated an explosion at his feet then he's not going to be standing on top of a pile of debris, is he?
How would it end up underneath him if he didn't move from the spot he was at when the explosion went off?
So it looks to me that the explosion went off, and then Vaccine Man moved there to stand on top of the debris created by the explosion.
That doesn't imply that. It just means that he made his appearance known with an explosion. Not that he caught himself in the explosion.
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Judging by his elevation, it’s pretty clear that he’s down near the bottom of the crater.
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Vaccine man can levitate.
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And? That's still after the explosion took place, meaning there's time for him to have landed in the crater.
Even if we assume he was within the blast radius of the explosion, that doesn't mean he was at the epicenter.
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Unrelated, but we could even calc the 7-C for a vaporization end given that it’s stated to be the same as homeless emperor’s blasts
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I was thinking of recalcing the feat entirely.
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Do whatever you want with the feat, but you are going to need much better evidence for the character to fully scale.
We can't just assume that characters were in the direct center of an explosion.
We can't just assume that characters were in the direct center of an explosion.
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Fine, I'll get that removed.
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Good luck
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Ok, can you link it here once you end up making it? I'd like to follow it.
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Calc Group thread will be up today to discuss it.
EDIT: I've gotten a bit sidetracked today. Will definitely have it up tomorrow morning.
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On this topic, would red hair/spiral Garou be able to make Low 7-B? He was able to fight against Orochi who was under orders to not kill him...but nothing was said about not beating his ass. Additionally, Garou survived against Orochi using WFRSF which can redirect his blows with 2x the power.
I know the scaling chain for High 7-C is pretty deep above Jet Psykos.
I know the scaling chain for High 7-C is pretty deep above Jet Psykos.
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Aye, just gotten home. I'm working on the OP now.
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Since non calc members can’t comment there, I’m just gonna point out that the “100 meters” thing is already contradicted by the hole being around beefcake sized to being with, which puts a hole in both the 270 and 100 meter statements
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It doesn't say that the crater is only 100 meters wide.
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Even if it’s only like 220 meters, that would still make the statement a massive undersell to begin with
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Agreed. I don't remember the other thread where this came up, but I strongly agree that the statement made about him:
Kabuto's physical level is far superior to other monsters so far
Only refers to physical stats, not all sources of AP.
As for the validity of the 7-B calc, I defer to Damage.
