One Punch Man: 7-B Carnage Kabuto scaling

[ZillertheBucko]

Atomic’s durability should just be 7-B via his sword, but unknown physically

 

[Recon1511]

Iaian scales to the ones that ****** him up, as does Genos.

Why?

He did break a Tatsumaki double layered barrier that was shown to be able to tank a large Black Sperm clone attack

 

[ByAsura]

Oh right, he has Gyoro Gyoro scaling.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Black sperm is probably the worst feat you could have for anything

 

[ByAsura]

fr fr

 

[Recon1511]

Oh right, he has Gyoro Gyoro scaling.

Are you talking about Iaian or?

Also do we scale G5 above the Mercs?

 

[ByAsura]

Black Sperm, who scales to Iaian. But the statement from Gyoro didn't specify an exact amount of clones, or anything.

We don't actually know if the suits were even active. Considering that they're on nearly par with Pig God, I doubt it.

 

[Recon1511]

Black Sperm, who scales to Iaian. But the statement from Gyoro didn't specify an exact amount of clones, or anything.

Well I guess its fair to say he is referring to a large amount of clones as individual ones are 10-C as stated by BS himself

We don't actually know if the suits were even active. Considering that they're on nearly par with Pig God, I doubt it.

The suirs were on their white "base" form and G5 seems to have easily defeated them offscreen

 

[ByAsura]

The white shit just means they weren't using the absolute full strength of the suit. We don't know much beyond that.

But, Genos scales to Gums, whom Pig God somewhat downscales from (to the extent that he could harm him and devour his corpse). So, Pig God should be able to roast G5.

 

[Recon1511]

The white shit just means they weren't using the absolute full strength of the suit. We don't know much beyond that.

But, Genos scales to Gums, whom Pig God somewhat downscales from. So, Pig God should be able to roast G5.

Well his other feats are being called "strong" by Child Emperor who purposefully avoided him + his core enduring an attack from Atomic Samurai

 

[ByAsura]

Atomic slaughtered Jet Psykos. There's no way he was full power there.

 

[Recon1511]

Atomic slaughtered Jet Psykos. There's no way he was full power there.

Well he did cut Jet Psykos with a fully powered Beeline Slash but he didn't make such effort against her laser beams

Not saying G5 dura should scale to a full power Atomic btw, but its no small feat

Also Viz translation is like this but idk

 

[Recon1511]

芯に特別固い物を仕込んでるな… 刻みきれない部分があった
Something extraordinarily hard is built into the center… a portion of it couldn’t be minced up

 

[ByAsura]

True.

The same Jet Psykos required Genos' continuous core beam to pierce the top layer of skin. And Psykos' beams are able to clash with DK's beams, which burned sections of her body.

 

[Recon1511]

True.

The same Jet Psykos required Genos' continuous core beam to pierce the top layer of skin. And Psykos' beams are able to clash with DK's beams, which burned sections of her body.

Well assuming this goes through and Atomic Samurai AP with his sword is "At least 7-B" then G5 core dura is 7-B as well which means that MA Arc Genos striking strength gets upgraded to 7-B for destroying G5's core with a stomp.

 

[ByAsura]

That's not very good scaling.

 

[Recon1511]

The MA arc scaling is a mess in general, I'm trying my best to make it make sense

But mind explaining why though? In all translations (even the spanish one I have on my volume) Atomic admits that he failed to cut the core

 

[Recon1511]

Bump?

 

[Damage3245]

Bump?

You need to leave at least 24 hours since the last post before you bump a thread.... Why would you bump after less than 2 hours?

 

[Recon1511]

You need to leave at least 24 hours since the last post before you bump a thread.... Why would you bump after less than 2 hours?

My bad

 

[Recon1511]

Oh boy, it's time for this thread then.

I'll leave my evaluation tomorrow.

Waiting for your evaluation here

 

[Damage3245]

Waiting for your evaluation here

Sorry, haven't forgotten but been a bit swamped with things after my holiday.

Will respond soon.

 

[Damage3245]

To summarize my thoughts, I think that the proposed scaling is probably okay but the Beefcake calc does need remaking as pointed out in an earlier CRT.

I'm currently working on a new version of it and will post here once it has been evaluated.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Didn’t we already go over that and confirm the current calc was ok?

 

[Damage3245]

Didn’t we already go over that and confirm the current calc was ok?

I thought we went over it and concluded it needed re-calcing. The measurements for the crater are wrong.

If you're thinking about the Beefcake height part, I think we concluded that bit can stay as it is.

 

[ByAsura]

We didn't come to any conclusions in that thread. We shut down the discussion entirely.

 

[Damage3245]

We didn't come to any conclusions in that thread. We shut down the discussion entirely.

Fair enough. The calc I will make will have multiple ends for it, for a few different options. I will bring them up for discussion here once it is ready.

 

[Recon1511]

I mean Chariot came and shut down a lot of doubts about it but we never finished the discussion.

 

[Recon1511]

I don't wanna be annoying about this but I also don't want this CRT to take nearly a month to complete like the other one.

 

[Damage3245]

I don't wanna be annoying about this but I also don't want this CRT to take nearly a month to complete like the other one.

Totally understandable. I was a bit distracted with some One Piece revisions yesterday, but will have the calc for this up today.

 

[Recon1511]

Okay, hopefully it isn't a big downgrade.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

7-C at best

 

[Recon1511]

I have to ask, why doesn't Vaccine Man durability scale to his explosions? Both in the anime and manga he walked out of the epicenter of one of his blasts:

 

[Damage3245]

Okay, hopefully it isn't a big downgrade.

Calc is done now, I've just got to get it evaluated.

 

[Kachon123]

Calc is done now, I've just got to get it evaluated.

I don't agree with either of your methods. We agreed in this CRT that Beefcake's sizes are too inconsistent to be used.

In both of your versions in your blog, you use Beefcake to find the volume of the cater. Due to Beefcake's sizes being vastly different in different panels and shots, how do we know that his hand is the same size in the first panel you used to pixel scale as it was in the second one?

Thus, I think that my calc should remain, although my crater pixel scaling does need to be fixed.

 

[Kachon123]

Adding on to my point about Beefcake's inconsistent sizes, we see in this panel:



That Beefcake's hand is not 87 meters wide, as your calc suggests, further cementing the point that Beefcake should never be used as a metric.

 

[Damage3245]

I don't agree with either of your methods. We agreed in this CRT that Beefcake's sizes are too inconsistent to be used.

In both of your versions in your blog, you use Beefcake to find the volume of the cater. Due to Beefcake's sizes being vastly different in different panels and shots, how do we know that his hand is the same size in the first panel you used to pixel scale as it was in the second one?

Thus, I think that my calc should remain, although my crater pixel scaling does need to be fixed.

This isn't the place to debate which calc is better, we can do that in a Calc Group thread.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

In that case, we should be able to apply the 7-B scaling since apparently the calc will be handled separately
No further delays needed.

 

[Damage3245]

In that case, we should be able to apply the 7-B scaling since apparently the calc will be handled separately
No further delays needed.

No, we're not just going to apply the revision without sorting out the calc issues first.

What's the rush?

 

[Recon1511]

I mean people already agree with the scaling all that's left is your calc against Kachon's calc to see which one is valid, I think there should be no issue discussing it here.