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1. Are you sure? I don't fully remember.
2. He was still at least even with her (if not holding a slight upper hand), and she even said that she didn't want to fight him until she got more Homies.
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One Piece Post-Timeskip Update #2
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2. He was still at least even with her (if not holding a slight upper hand), and she even said that she didn't want to fight him until she got more Homies.
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Sure, that works.
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True, but she still didn't want to face him until she had more Homies, and isn't restraining with one hand more of a lifting strength feat?
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I can't wait until we can use @KingTempest 's Wano blog
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outlier. Whitebeard is planet lvl, minimum
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Noted.Disagree.
outlier. Whitebeard is planet lvl, minimum
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I meant... outlier, whitebeard is canon/pistol lvl
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Marineford is has a whole lot of issues, that for some I think we ought not examine too closely tbh.
Doffy's performance in his own focused arc is more worthwhile than him during the war.
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Fair enough. I guess applying LS to parasite strings rather than AP is more reasonable anyway. Aokiji's still seems unfinished- otherwise the justifications and whatnot look great
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After god tiers, are we getting to POST-TS speed rev?
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Yes.
Anyway, it looks like pretty much unanimous approval for the sandbox of the God Tiers so they can be updated later today presumably.
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37 teratons, yeah it was
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Noticed that Marco has "higher with zoan, even higher with hybrid form" yet the feats listed for his base form "contending with the admirals" were all performed with his zoan transformations active.
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For Shiki, I assumed the Unknown is for his Strong World key, if so, we have an accepted calculation for Shiki that puts him at Large Mountain level
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After fully reading the sandbox there's a few things that I think could be changed/added alongside my initial post:
Fujitora:
Law who he's stronger than is rated at 7-A+ as is Doflamingo and both of these justificiations would make Fuji above these two, meaning Fujitora should be rated "At least Mountain level+" instead.
Kozuki Oden:
From the actual chapter I don't think there's anything suggesting Rayleigh was only confident fighting with Gaban or that he didn't think he could take Oden on alone, Gaban only said "should we nip this in the bud", which just suggests that they wanted to stop Oden most likely in the most efficient/quick way possible which would be together. Personally I think this justification for him can go.
Kaidou:
I don't agree with the separation of Zoan form and Hybrid and scaling them higher than each other and instead think the two should be rated together. First of all there isn't actually anything suggesting that Hybrid is superior to regular zoan's in terms of stats, and the statement "his already-high physical abilities get improved even further" is referring to his Base form which was obvious. Also there isn't much reason to assume there should be a massive difference in general for example a boro breathe from Hybrid doesn't have any reason to be stronger than one from his zoan form.
We also see recently in chapter 1037 (Not suggesting any wano scaling only using this as proof there isn't much difference) that Luffy with ryuo barriers struggles to stop and deflect a Zoan demolition gust yet not showing as much issue against a Hybrid + Hao strike (Although admittedly he was in base against Zoan and gear 2nd against Hybrid it isn't much of a difference as Kaidou was using Haoshoku infusion in Hybrid but not Zoan), showing there isn't actually a massive difference between the two forms.
Also Hybrid and Haoshoku infusion shouldn't be listed as the same/similar values as Kaidou with infusion can and commonly is stacked on top of Hybrid making it undoubtedly higher than just Hybrid's rating alone.
So instead Kaidou's rating should look something like this "6-B, higher in Zoan Forms, far higher with Haoshoku infusion".
I agree with the statement, however, Shanks should not be included (regardless of if via the scaling Kaidou still ends up scaling above him) as Skull prior to giving this information states he couldn't find much information on Shanks. Meaning this statement primarily applies to Big Mom and Whitebeard.
Also as further support for the statement we should use the same justification of Oden's profile to support it where he stated "If I fail to defeat him, there will be no others who can stop Kaidou for a long time".
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Yeah, that'll need to be fixed.
Okay, that's fine.
That's true. I'd remove that.
Seems reasonable.
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Emin's proposals seem good to me as well.
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For Roronoa Zoro's page, it seems that the 2nd key tier does not match the Attack Potency.
The tier have "7-A, far higher with Busōshoku Haki, even higher with Asura" while the Attack Potency is just "Mountain level+ (Would have killed Basil Hawkins if not for his ability. Clashed with Denjiro but was inferior)" Missing the Buso Haki and Asura part
And I believe theBuso-Haki justification of "One-Shot Killer" in Zoro's first key need to be move over to the second as that is Early Wano feat
The tier have "7-A, far higher with Busōshoku Haki, even higher with Asura" while the Attack Potency is just "Mountain level+ (Would have killed Basil Hawkins if not for his ability. Clashed with Denjiro but was inferior)" Missing the Buso Haki and Asura part
And I believe theBuso-Haki justification of "One-Shot Killer" in Zoro's first key need to be move over to the second as that is Early Wano feat
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Thanks. Fixed it.
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I'd also suggest removing Kizaru's "durability negation via heat." part given that Whitebeard's resistance scales to Akainu who's obviously using much more potent heat.
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bump
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Idk... That's iffy af, or do we add higher via piercing power? As it easily want through whitebeard?
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Has anyone tried calcing how hot Magu Magu is? If Oda's reasoning in it being the highest offense is its heat, then it has to be hotter than Goro Goro as well. Starting to sound far less like regular magma and more like planet's core magma-
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I mean... It's not average magma... The same way luffy isn't regular rubber. They are enhanced because of training their devil fruit
I saw one somewhere... But I didn't understand it
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This is something I've been wondering since he has feats that show high levels of heat The feats: Instantly vaporized a massive iceberg:
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That doesn't seem to cover the heat- just the energy required to burn all that in one go. RIP.I mean... It's not average magma... The same way luffy isn't regular rubber. They are enhanced because of training their devil fruit
I saw one somewhere... But I didn't understand it
Akainu's Magma Heat |
This is something I've been wondering since he has feats that show high levels of heat The feats: Instantly vaporized a massive iceberg:
There's a calc that states it's 16 232F/9000C for burning fire itself. Again- unknown. We'll get to learn more about it when he's more relevant, but at least we know Akainu scales over anything else that any other DF user feat we see. Oda did say that it's OFFENSE is the highest after all.
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bump (lets not let dis die, we are so close bro)
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I'll try and adjust the sandbox for Emin's comments if it hasn't been done already.
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Having zoan limbs activated isn't automatically a "hybrid", feats where he kicked with his regular human leg and such is his base form.
Only time he used hybrid attacks is on Akainu alongside Vista.
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Agree with tempest
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Sure, that's fine then. Should his bit about fighting Akainu be moved up to the hybrid section and the rest left as is?
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He only attacked Akainu via hybrid once I believe... That all happened to distract him from hurting luffy or ace
Didn't actually fight each other
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