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Wait... Wtf. I thought perceiving was seeing something or able to keep track on somethingpercieving/=/ reaction monkey..
This is her reacting to luffy
Isn't this perceiving?
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Wait... Wtf. I thought perceiving was seeing something or able to keep track on somethingpercieving/=/ reaction monkey..
did...did you just checked the scans that u sent?Not a blitz.
Not a blitz.
Not a blitz.
Not a blitz.
Not a blitz
A blitz.
Yes.did...did you just checked the scans that u sent?
Everything that u sent was a blitzYes.
Everything that u sent was a blitz
Speed Blitz is the act of one attacking their opponent before they are capable of perceiving or reacting to them. Blitzing is different than outpacing, where a character is simply faster than the other. A blitz is more like an all around outclassing in speed.
Isn't that reaction?Their perception > initial reaction (like widening their eye's or having an "oh **** face") >/= Kizaru LS attack >>> proper reaction (like moving to dodge or to block, or activating their ability).
Well to me... Reaction is you reacting to something that's happening, and if you don't react at all it's a blitzA regular human could widen their eyes upon someone firing a bullet toward them, but we don't say the person can react to the bullet. The same thing happens in One Piece and other anime as well, where someone will be able to raise their eyes and give a shocked expression, but we still consider it as them being speedblitzed because they're not able to properly defend themselves and show no semi-comparable feats of speed in that bout aside from the expression they give.
Reaction speed is the speed at which a character can react to an event or action. This usually only grants a short movement upon reaction, whereas several movements at the same speed switch it to combat speed.
No, when the page refers to perceiving something as being grounds for reactions, they mean something more akin to Character A and Character B fighting at high speeds, and Character C can perceive what's happening in the fight. C's reactions are on par with A's and B's.Well to me... Reaction is you reacting to something that's happening, and if you don't react at all it's a blitz
It also says on the reactiong speed page
The difference between that example and this is that humans tend to react to people pulling the trigger, not the bullet itself, where as here they're responding (eye's widening and having shocked expressions) to Kizaru, who is the bullet himself in this case.A regular human could widen their eyes upon someone firing a bullet toward them, but we don't say the person can react to the bullet. The same thing happens in One Piece and other anime as well, where someone will be able to raise their eyes and give a shocked expression, but we still consider it as them being speedblitzed because they're not able to properly defend themselves and show no semi-comparable feats of speed in that bout aside from the expression they give.
That's what I've been saying for forever... And they think that's perceivingThe difference between that example and this is that humans tend to react to people pulling the trigger, not the bullet itself, where as here they're responding (eye's widening and having shocked expressions) to Kizaru, who is the bullet himself in this case.
If we go by definitions, just widening your eye's at something occuring can be considered a reaction (even if it's a very minor one).
Even if that is a reaction, it's not one that means that a feat no longer becomes a blitz. Something that menial doesn't qualify due to:The difference between that example and this is that humans tend to react to people pulling the trigger, not the bullet itself, where as here they're responding (eye's widening and having shocked expressions) to Kizaru, who is the bullet himself in this case.
If we go by definitions, just widening your eye's at something occuring can be considered a reaction (even if it's a very minor one).
Even if that is a reaction, it's not one that means that a feat no longer becomes a blitz. Something that menial doesn't qualify due to:
- Being interpreted as cinematic timing.
- Not implying that they can perceive (as in being able to somewhat keep up with in terms of sight or sensory ability) the action on a level to where they'd be comparable to it.
- Not implying that they have the physical ability to react to someone.
That I agree with... But what I say is... That it's not fully a blitz which to me and this site thinks is correctIt's a blitz, it's just not the highest level of blitz or an insane blitz.
Speed Blitz is the act of one attacking their opponent before they are capable of perceiving or reacting to them.
I'm not saying it's not a blitz cause I agree that it practically is since while Kizaru attack might not be faster than their initial reaction, he's too fast for them to properly react or respond to his attacks. It's a blitz, it's just not the highest level of blitz or an insane blitz.
Looked through the panels again: Naw, still no way a one-off facial expression is grounds to minimize how much an individual blitzes. Kizaru was literally proceeding to stomp several people, all of whom could have started having reactions at different rates before Kizaru decided to attack them. Keep in mind, he wasn't just bodying one dude, it was several. The longer it takes for him to get to another person because he's busy fodderizing another individual = more time for the individual to begin reacting.That I agree with... But what I say is... That it's not fully a blitz which to me and this site thinks is correct
Looked through the panels again: Naw, still no way a one-off facial expression is grounds to minimize how much an individual blitzes. Kizaru was literally proceeding to stomp several people, all of whom could have started having reactions at different rates before Kizaru decided to attack them. Keep in mind, he wasn't just bodying one dude, it was several. The longer it takes for him to get to another person because he's busy fodderizing another individual = more time for the individual to begin reacting.
The closest range he can reacted, the feats would be much impressive.
Also they could only react when kizaru were near them... Which would be less impressive if the could react to him from example a mile away
No... If you react to for example a bullet thats 5m away from you, it's less impressive if you reacted to the bullet from 10m away... If you dodge a bullet that you reacted 5m away from you, it would be more impressive movement speed than if you reacted to the bullet 10m away and dodged itThe closest range he can reacted, the feats would be much impressive.
What? Do you know how to calc projectile dodging feat?No... If you react to for example a bullet thats 5m away from you, it's less impressive if you reacted to the bullet from 10m away
I wasn't talking about dodging... Reread the comment (added more)What? Do you know how to calc projectile dodging feat?
Projectile dodging feats calc is just term, even if someone can't dodge it, their recation can be calculated with same method.I wasn't talking about dodging... Reread the comment (added more)
Projectile dodging feats calc is just term, even if someone can't dodge it, their recation can be calculated with same method.
The second feat is faster reaction speed which is how people can aim dodge and be slower than the thing their dodging.If you react to for example a bullet thats 5m away from you, it's less impressive if you reacted to the bullet from 10m away
You sure it's not?Yet Zoro outsped him with Dragon Blaze which isn't a speed boosting technique.
Depends, this is a weird topic nglNoticed something:
On Ryuma's profile it says this: Far Higher with Hanauta Sancho: Yahazu Giri
Ryuma is scaling normally to Zoro yet with that technique seems to imply he's far faster than him. Yet Zoro outsped him with Dragon Blaze which isn't a speed boosting technique.
I agree the technique does seem to be faster than Brook/Ryuma's other arsenal, and Zoro and Ryuma were shown realtive prior to the dragon blaze. This to me seems to imply that Zoro simply got faster through his reactive power level, meaning Brook and Ryuma shouldn't scale to the Zoro who performed the light dodge or sabaody feats.
This could be a skill feat from Zoro or that technique isn't as fast as on ground
Ryuma was 2 alphabets from hitting Zoro...
Didn't think about this, could be the case.a skill feat from Zoro
Fair enoughThe feat is from the Kuma fight, where Usopp said he was tired af and it’d be risky to fight, showcased by his breathing patterns.
Heck, he was holding Shisui, a heavier sword, which would’ve made him slower.
And everyone reacted to his movements afterwards but Franky couldn’t react to his fight with Ryuma.
I think Ryuma should scale above an exhausted Zoro
None at the momentAny more changes to the sandbox that need to happen before I continue with my analysis?
However, using this value is incorrect, and makes for an rather large highball. The issue is that the value the calc uses is absolute perception speed in perfect darkroom conditions (perception speed is highly dependent on contrast and lighting) with subjects who genetically and training-wise have the best vision in the world.
To counter this point.These characters aren't known to possess peak human perception, and weren't in test conditions with the expectation that he would disappear.
To counter this point.
These guys are hundreds of ridiculously skilled trained assassins in a verse where the average human is like 10 times higher than irl people.