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Yeah, that should be fine for the Animal Trio
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One Piece: Massive Speed Revision, Part 1: Pre Timeskip
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Theendzero13
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WrongIdea21
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What about the Vice admiral, especially my favorite vice admiral Momonga he should scale above Luffy
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I have a problem, Ussop's calculation is not about your reaction but your perception, I had also redone it because these pixels I used were worse and I got Rel.
Sorry to mention this after posting, I didn't realize I was using it for dc
Sorry to mention this after posting, I didn't realize I was using it for dc
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USklaverei is correct; that isn't a reaction speed calc for Usopp and it ought to be removed.
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Usopp didn't perceive the Pad Cannons (Didn't know how the marks in the rubble were formed) and Zoro dodged them, that's where the scaling comes from.
But if the calc is incorrect/redone could you please link it?
Worst case scenario we'd just scale them to a lower feat
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I have some issues with that. Will post when I can.
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In the meantime (when I get home) I’ll revise the scaling
Stefano4444
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No matter what, i still find fishy to have Pre-Timeskip characters to be this fast when Kizaru easily speedblitz them in his light form.
However there are just far too many valid calcs to simply assume they are just a bunch of outliers, it would be plain stupid to me to think otherwise.
Even if i'm not completely agree with this, i give my full support for the speed upgrade.
However there are just far too many valid calcs to simply assume they are just a bunch of outliers, it would be plain stupid to me to think otherwise.
Even if i'm not completely agree with this, i give my full support for the speed upgrade.
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Thanks for the support
With the implementation of this error fix
No pre ts characters except Ivankov touches Rel+, so they’re up to Rel max, still a 2x difference, fair enough for a blitz.
The goal was to keep consistency but make it make sense with the story, so thanks for calling that out
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At first glance, everything in the OP and the Blog look good to me, but I will admit I personally don’t know all the specifics
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I forgot Zoro had a calc.
So I revised the scaling chains.
As of now only 4 people scale to Ivankov's value.
Ivankov, Magellan, Kuma, and Iai Zoro.
Is G2nd Luffy going to scale to Magellan?
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I mean scaling to magellan is not scaling to a god tier so i think he should
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Wouldn't Magellan scale to Shiryu? Considering that Mr.2 stated they are equals. That also would explain why Crocodile and Jinbei wanted to avoid fighting him as much as possible.
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Re-read the thread to see anything I may have missed or clear up anything I was confused on. I agree with G2 Luffy scaling to Magellan.
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He was described as being "as powerful as Magellan" but that doesn't mean all stats are equal between them.
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If I recall correctly Magellan was the reason why Shiryu was captured and tortured in Impel down for many years?
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Ok so that's set in stone.
Next question.
Is Magellan's regular speed (w/out Doku Doku no Mi) scaling to Ivankov?
Next question.
Is Magellan's regular speed (w/out Doku Doku no Mi) scaling to Ivankov?
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Could we scale Shiryu to Absalom?
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We don't even know if Shiryu is the one who actually killed Absalom.
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Wouldn't that imply that his strength should be at least comparable to Magellan, there's no indication that Shiryu was confident in fighting Magellan again. On the contrary, he killed his men in order that Magellan doesn't know where he is and can safely escape without having to fight him, sounds like to me a confirmation that Magellan is comparable to Shiryu (at least Ap-wise).
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Fair
Magellan and Shiryu fought though, and I doubt 2 people "equal in power" would just blitz the other. Me personally I think he scales
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His DF blocked and intercepted attacks from G2nd Luffy who blitzed his regular body.
I don't mean the DF amping him, I mean the DF based attacks like Hydra
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Oh ok.
I mean from what we have seen he seems like he was following ivankov movements or can at least see them. So im fine with him scaling to ivankov. Also fine if he doesn't scale
Eminiteable
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Could scale him to Moria, although he was invisible he did still manage to individually cut Moria and three other zombie's in the same time-frame before Moria himself noticed.
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This makes sense to me. Anybody disagrees?Could scale him to Moria, although he was invisible he did still manage to individually cut Moria and three other zombie's in the same time-frame before Moria himself noticed.
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Could work. Biggest issue is that it was an attack while Moria was off-guard and from an invisible opponent. Makes scaling him a bit more sketchy, but possible.
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What about a possibly for him?
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Yeah.
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People who scale to .55c
Ivankov's Combat, Magellan's Combat, MF Gear 2nd Luffy's Combat, Kuma's Combat, Pacifista's Reactions
People who scale to .59c
Ivankov's Death Wink, Magellan's Devil Fruit, Kuma's Reactions, Iai TB Zoro
That's situated.
Ivankov's Combat, Magellan's Combat, MF Gear 2nd Luffy's Combat, Kuma's Combat, Pacifista's Reactions
People who scale to .59c
Ivankov's Death Wink, Magellan's Devil Fruit, Kuma's Reactions, Iai TB Zoro
That's situated.
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Mostly All of them were able to react to him.
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- #153
Barely anybody did...?
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Yeah, that's just what I was thinking. The Supernova were indisputably being blitzed to hell by Kizaru.
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Like you could argue perception to an extent.
Reaction? Heck no
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Not a blitz.
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A blitz.
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Everything you just named was a blitzNot a blitz.
Not a blitz.
Not a blitz.
Not a blitz.
Not a blitz
A blitz.
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No. They reacted...
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They perceived him.
They did not react to him.
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percieving/=/ reaction monkey..
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