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Sanji's cigar say hi.
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One Piece Heat resistance Scaling
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???????
It's not like I'm making it up. Right after hitting him with Grill Shot this happens. DJ's flames weren't even bothering Queen's body.
He took Hell Memories head on and crawled right back out without even burn marks visible.
And Ifrit Jambe's assault wasn't a threat because of the heat either. Sanji himself literally thinks: "Faster Acceleration! Heavier weight!"
He was more or less talking about the heaviness of the attacks than setting Queen on fire- because after several combo'd hits Queen was still not scroched and lost because he just got straight up beaten up. His body was resisting the temperatures the whole time through.
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Nada. Akainu is said to be the highest offense among devil fruits. Sanji's ability isn't devil fruit based-
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Alright, Sanji's leg no sells Akainu's magma then..
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So far? Yeah- Sanji's currently the guy rocking the highest temperature in the verse!
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???????
It's not like I'm making it up. Right after hitting him with Grill Shot this happens. DJ's flames weren't even bothering Queen's body.
He took Hell Memories head on and crawled right back out without even burn marks visible.
And Ifrit Jambe's assault wasn't a threat because of the heat either. Sanji himself literally thinks: "Faster Acceleration! Heavier weight!"
He was more or less talking about the heaviness of the attacks than setting Queen on fire- because after several combo'd hits Queen was still not scroched and lost because he just got straight up beaten up. His body was resisting the temperatures the whole time through.
He did mention the heat.
Anyway the acceleration and weight things is refering to Queen wich can endure the Diable jambe's AP so Sanji need more
Grill shot is literally grilled him
And in your scans, Queen get up and praised the attack.
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It left the marks that it usually does, yeah. But Queen clearly wasn't bothered by the fire
Didn't Jabura say DJ burns through you into the bone? The fire didn't even bypass his body's durability. similiar to Doflamingo's leg taking the kick without the minor dura neg being there.
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Isn't his Dura neg is because of the heat?
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Yes. And if the heat doesn't dura neg the target, ie> Sanji literally saying he can't break Queen's tough body
Then Queen's resisting DJ's heat
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But DJ's Burn him with marks, Or do we agree that Sanji only burns the outer shell? still it burns right.
Anyway Luffy's Red Hawk technique should be higher than Sanji's DJ , Considering he Burned Doffy. Red Roc is an execption because Luffy used Advance Armament on it. I'll add the scaling.
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It does, but we don't know how deep into Queen it burned is the issue, especially when Sanji makes it sound like it barely did anything at all.
Also remember- Queen's got that weird snake body inside his brachio body, so basically his outer shell holding the fire off from hitting his snake body is a form of durability/resistance to the flames.
Not like it makes a huge difference either way ig. Only Sanji scales to his Ifrit Jambe fire anyway. (Unless someone argues Kaido's fire dragon is over it)
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No one would say otherwise.
Nah it's just his weird ability tho. if we thought it was a shell or have separate cyborg body layers it wouldn't be consistent with the fact that his body shrunk due to being sucked in by Ryokugyu.
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But that was his human body- his brachiosnake form is Zoan only, no?
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If he really resisted without Haki then why he put his Haki on when he blocked Sanji's DJ? Just sounds inconsistent.
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Wish I could answer that. We see Sanji comment on his regular toughness, but we also see Queen using Haki on his arms to fight DJ Sanji.
Either it's inconsistent/outlier or plot weirdness
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Maybe he wants to minimize the damage -_-
Like when Doffy puts Haki to guard even though he says Luffy’s attacks have no weight
Like when Doffy puts Haki to guard even though he says Luffy’s attacks have no weight
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When he used his Haki, Diable Jambe looks like have no damage at all.
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He completely tanked it
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I said no to King scaling in heat.???????
It's not like I'm making it up. Right after hitting him with Grill Shot this happens. DJ's flames weren't even bothering Queen's body.
He took Hell Memories head on and crawled right back out without even burn marks visible.
And Ifrit Jambe's assault wasn't a threat because of the heat either. Sanji himself literally thinks: "Faster Acceleration! Heavier weight!"
He was more or less talking about the heaviness of the attacks than setting Queen on fire- because after several combo'd hits Queen was still not scroched and lost because he just got straight up beaten up. His body was resisting the temperatures the whole time through.
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Queen with Haki.
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not scaling in heat. But heat RESISTANCE. King is more durable than queen and Queen's durability is what had Sanji commenting on his tanking of DJ.
There's nothing that suggests King's fire is as hot as Sanji's.
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You can't scale heat res like that. Heat res and dura are 2 completely different things.
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Queen's heat res is BECAUSE of his dura.
And King is more durable, so he should scale.
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It's because of his Haki. Sanji couldn't get through well because his AP wasn't enough. Queen was still clearly getting burned by diable attacks when he wasn't using Haki.
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Flame-On King is STILL more durable than that. Even Queen was wanking King to be indestructible.
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Haki literally gives heat resistance. His Haki resisted Sanji's DJ not mainly because of it's dura, but because of the heat resistance.
King does not scale.
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Didn’t Sanji fail to leave relevant burns on Queen
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Queen didn't have a single burn mark on him after the ifrit combo, mainly bruises and blood.
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He left grill marks externally but Queen didn't react like he got burned. It'd be weird if Sanji burned him significantly yet says "I can't get through his toughness"
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I mean even with the DJs he didn’t retain burn marks
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Grill marks are bs they happen underwater too. Grill shot leaves that on all its victims then it instantly disappears
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Yeh. And like Emin said- BURNING queen wasn't the focus to begin with. He was dealing with the fire just fine. It was Sanji's strength that overwhelmed him, but he showed no signs of actually being effected by the fire. That's why I said he scales to DJ/IJ via natural resistance.
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Sanji's definitely Burn Luffy's Bone but left nothing but bruishes
You can see the smoke after he took Concasser
Also Luffy's Redhawk only left bruishes
The logic is that there would be no smoke if nothing burned.
You can see Sanji's DJ burn Queen Here Here and Here. Ifrit Jambe without smoke effect would still above Diable Jambe because it's scale directly to above the Diable Jambe heat and Isn't supporting feats for Queen's Resistance.
You can see the smoke after he took Concasser
Also Luffy's Redhawk only left bruishes
The logic is that there would be no smoke if nothing burned.
You can see Sanji's DJ burn Queen Here Here and Here. Ifrit Jambe without smoke effect would still above Diable Jambe because it's scale directly to above the Diable Jambe heat and Isn't supporting feats for Queen's Resistance.
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Amaterasu stated to as hot as sun's surface heat( idk if this true), Zoro have 5x heat Resistance than Amaterasu even without Haki.
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the ottsutsuki get resistance to extreme heat just to withstand the amatetasu which is as hot as the sun's surface. Haki should have resistance to extreme heat
WrongIdea21
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Indeed it does, Sanji blatantly stated it.
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Bump, anything else?
