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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Eseseso said:
Thanks to those who answered my question on the multiplier.

Now, back to an earlier discussion, how come Base Post-Kata Luffy isn't considered at least somewhat comparable to Base Kata without Haki when the 2 fought each other for quite some time while both were injured?
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Both people were not equally injured
Eseseso said:
Also, how come Post-Kata base Luffy isn't ranked as more durable than Bound Man? On his profile, only Pre-Udon Luffy is more durable than Boundman.
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He has no scaling above Bound Man
Eseseso said:
Lastly, when is the compression stuff gonna be added to Luffy's profile?
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It already is
 
KingTempest said:
Both people were not equally injured
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How was Luffy less injured than Kata? Kata had beaten the everloving crap out of him. If anything it was likelier to be the other way around.

I find it hard to believe that Post Kata Base Luffy can't even backscale from Base Katakuri himself.
KingTempest said:
It already is
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It is? I just checked his profile, and there is nothing about Luffy's Compression multiplying above G4. His Strongest Attacks only multiply above G3.
KingTempest said:
Also

No he is not
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Wait, I meant only Post Udon Luffy in base is above pre-Udon G4, my bad.
 
Eseseso said:
How was Luffy less injured than Kata? Kata had beaten the everloving crap out of him. If anything it was likelier to be the other way around.
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People take damage different, which is why Kata went down after taking significantly less hits
Eseseso said:
I find it hard to believe that Post Kata Base Luffy can't even backscale from Base Katakuri himself.
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When Kata scales to G2nd, who is far higher than base, no.
Eseseso said:
It is? I just checked his profile, and there is nothing about Luffy's Compression multiplying above G4. His Strongest Attacks only multiply above G3.
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The regular G4th multiplier over G2nd is the compression bs.
Eseseso said:
Wait, I meant only Post Udon Luffy in base is above pre-Udon G4, my bad.
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Because that one has feats. This I’ve doesn’t.
 
And to be fair I know this isn't gonna be a new scaling feat, just wanted to see if it can be a supporting feat (I ain't looking for 6-A or High 6-A in this feat, not even High 6-B). Heck I'm not even expecting anything insane either.
 
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KingTempest said:
When Kata scales to G2nd, who is far higher than base, no.
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Ok, then how about Post Kata G2 Luffy scaling to Kata himself?

And Luffy in Base should (IMO) at least backscale from Kata to something like Baseline 7-A (like how Doffy and those who scale to him are backscaled from Dressrosa G4 to baseline 7-A+)
KingTempest said:
The regular G4th multiplier over G2nd is the compression bs.
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But what about what Mitch said?
 
Eseseso said:
Ok, then how about Post Kata G2 Luffy scaling to Kata himself?
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Could work
Eseseso said:
And Luffy in Base should (IMO) at least backscale from Kata to something like Baseline 7-A (like how Doffy and those who scale to him are backscaled from Dressrosa G4 to baseline 7-A+)
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CRT it
Eseseso said:
But what about what Mitch said?
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That is exactly what the multiplier is
Mitch didn’t say anything new
Go read the old multiplier threads
 
Veronica said:
Gear 4 with a specific attack is 4x Gear 2 while base Gear 4 punches are just above Gear 2.
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If Gear 2nd is 1 Gigaton then Gear 3rd 2 Gigatons - Base Gear 4th 3 Gigatons - Kong Gun 4 Gigatons and KKG is 4x Gear 3rd, that's the example.
But I might be wrong
 
WrongIdea21 said:
His Physical Strenght is Above Gear 4 in my opinion but some people likely disagree with it.
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I rarely say this, but- BULLSHIT.

Everything Gear 5 did was rocking Kaido. From smacking him around to punching through his head, to the gatling-gun like attack.
Gear Fourth needed compression EVERYTIME to make Kaido budge while Gear Fifth was regularly fighting back on a similiar level AND can amp itself with compression. And the whole time Luffy was using basic invisible armament

Ain't no way Gear Five is below Gear Four in anything whatsoever. If it was below G4 we would've at least had a statement about his attacks not getting stronger. Everything else in terms of showings and statements contradicts the "G4>G5" narrative

I'm gonna argue this to hell and back when that CRT comes about kek
 
SnookB said:
I rarely say this, but- BULLSHIT.

Everything Gear 5 did was rocking Kaido. From smacking him around to punching through his head, to the gatling-gun like attack.
Gear Fourth needed compression EVERYTIME to make Kaido budge while Gear Fifth was regularly fighting back on a similiar level AND can amp itself with compression. And the whole time Luffy was using basic invisible armament

Ain't no way Gear Five is below Gear Four in anything whatsoever. If it was below G4 we would've at least had a statement about his attacks not getting stronger. Everything else in terms of showings and statements contradicts the "G4>G5" narrative

I'm gonna argue this to hell and back when that CRT comes about kek
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AP, Durability and even speed is Drastically increased due this Form, in line with Gorosei's statement that with Luffy's Devil Fruit awakening, his physical strength will increase and become more versatile.
 
Magmag said:
That stamina tho🫡
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Isn't it better than Gear Fourth's?
He fell out of it and went right back in. I think it's more or less Luffy's lack of understanding of the form that has him struggling this much. He's even trying to figure out attack names and all. I'm still on the camp that G5 is gonna kill him though >>
WrongIdea21 said:
AP, Durability and even speed is Drastically increased due this Form, in line with Gorosei's statement that with Luffy's Devil Fruit awakening, his physical strength will increase and become more versatile.
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Yup, yup and yup.
The statements are almost the same, both from Luffy and the Gorosei. They say "Awakening exponentially increases the user's strength and freedom" or in the official I think they say "strengthens their body far greater", or around those lines. Luffy even says "This is MY PEAK", so unless his "peak" is weaker than his previous peak then he's flat out lying.
The fact that G4 was needing compression to be a threat while G5 was just throwing hands and working shows that it's greater.
 
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