One Piece General Discussion: Egghead

[DaMonkeMan]

Why wouldn't he put Haki on from the get go when he knows it's necessary to stop G4 from absolutely pulverizing his bones
Like yeah, maybe he saw Luffy stretch his legs and then he applied Haki to his face, but it's much more likely that he just did it preemptively knowing Luffy would attack again.

 

[ZKillerz]

So you just showed every time he barely reacted to luffy's causal speed compared to luffy when he's actually moving his fasted

Baseless assertion that luffy wasn't moving at his fastest during all instances I showed, your only saying this because it fits your agenda...

, doffy could see luffy fly and after luffy becomes a blur, same shit as this

The difference is that dofflamingo actually reacted while Blueno got blitzed? Maybe if he blocked with tekkai this would be a good comparison

What you going to say it didn't blitz because he "reacted" from afar to escape?

Well no because in one instance dofflaming is reacting to luffy at a close range while in this instance he is simply slipping into his pocket dimension which is significantly easier than actually reacting to the attack...

 

[ZKillerz]

Why wouldn't he put Haki on from the get go when he knows it's necessary to stop G4 from absolutely pulverizing his bones
Like yeah, maybe he saw Luffy stretch his legs and then he applied Haki to his face, but it's much more likely that he just did it preemptively knowing Luffy would attack again.

No he only applied haki to the side of his face, if he wanted to protect himself without knowing where luffy was going to attack he would've used full body haki...

 

[DaMonkeMan]

No he only applied haki to the side of his face, if he wanted to protect himself without knowing where luffy was going to attack he would've used full body haki...

Yeah I guess that's true

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Well no because in one instance dofflaming is reacting to luffy at a close range while in this instance he is simply slipping into his pocket dimension which is significantly easier than actually reacting to the attack...

That is "reacting"... Same shit as the armament Haki one you mentioned

Baseless assertion that luffy wasn't moving at his fastest during all instances I showed, your only saying this because it fits your agenda...

I don't give an f about my agendas, I care about the truth

You are literally the one nitpicking the actual situation of the fight, showing doffy barely reacting to casual gear 4th speed to then say luffy isn't blitz levels above

 

[ZKillerz]

That is "reacting"... Same shit as the armament Haki one you mentioned

Yeah its reacting just significantly less impressive than the instances I'm referring to.

I don't give an f about my agendas, I care about the truth

cool

You are literally the one nitpicking the actual situation of the fight

How

showing doffy barely reacting to casual gear 4th speed

Again you keep saying "casual gear 4th speed" without justification, why would luffy only be casual against dofflamingo?

to then say luffy isn't blitz levels above

Because in order to say someone is a blitz tier above you actually have to prove he can consistently blitz his opponent?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Like, we literally already discussed this shit about gear 4th luffy vs Doffy's speed... I ain't going to waste my time on shit that with context you can see how doffy could still try to keep up against gear 4th

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Because in order to say someone is a blitz tier above you actually have to prove he can consistently blitz his opponent?

Because it literally blatantly showed him blitz? The f? Something his casual flying speed didn't do

 

[ZKillerz]

Like, we literally already discussed this shit about gear 4th luffy vs Doffy's speed...

And what did you guys conclude?

I ain't going to waste my time on shit that with context you can see how doffy could still try to keep up against gear 4th

I'm not denying that luffy is faster bruv

 

[ZKillerz]

Because it literally blatantly showed him blitz? The f? Something his casual flying speed didn't do

The key word here is consistently
Characters relative in speed can tag each other in fights. Luffy landing attacks Isn't sufficient evidence that he's consistently a blitz tier above.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

And what did you guys conclude?

I'm not denying that luffy is faster bruv

That basically he could only barely keep up via utilizing obs Haki and his aoe strings

 

[ZKillerz]

That basically he could only barely keep up via utilizing obs Haki and his aoe strings

Thats fine I dont necessarily disagree
I still dont see how this proves he'll be a blitz lvl faster tho. Unless your just assuming he wasn't using observation haki before

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Thats fine I dont necessarily disagree
I still dont see how this proves he'll be a blitz lvl faster tho. Unless your just assuming he wasn't using observation haki before

that without obs Haki, gear 4th's speed is blitz levels above... The scan of luffy's Rhino Schneider is luffy completely blitzing Doffy's speed, his obs Haki is the only thing that allowed him to be able to keep up there (putting arm haki on before the impact)

The other instances the same way, barely keeping up via utilizing his strings aoe and obs Haki from afar

Not trying to explain every page one by one

 

[Tetsucabrah]

In the scene where Doffy hakis up his face for the Rhino Schneider Luffy crosses a huge distance before Doffy perceives him iirc

 

[XDragnoir]

Im confused with the heat scaling. Is Sanjis IJ > Akainu's Magma?

Since no one answered this, no, Sanji scales above Akainu's heat aura but not the magma itself.

It's kinda hard to compare tho as Akainu is way above his own aura for sure but everyone he burned so far only scales to his aura, meanwhile Sanji burns people who have some heat scaling on top of his aura, kinda like:

Magma Aura <<<< Magma attacks
Magma Aura < X < Y < Z < Sanji

 

[Darkvie123]

Sickbeard vs Base Kaido who u got winning and who scales higher?

 

[SlendVeny]

Sickbeard vs Base Kaido who u got winning and who scales higher?

Base Kaidou claps.

 

[Darkvie123]

Base Kaidou claps.

Why?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Sickbeard had a heart attack every time he tried to use CoC. Kaidou wins.

 

[Darkvie123]

Sickbeard had a heart attack every time he tried to use CoC. Kaidou wins.

Doesn't he scale to the OG Admirals since he two shotted Akainu?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Doesn't he scale to the OG Admirals since he two shotted Akainu?

Do you really think that matters after what we saw with Kizaru and White Star Gun?

 

[XDragnoir]

Doesn't he scale to the OG Admirals since he two shotted Akainu?

You think Akainu would last after a Super Hybrid Thunder Bagua with full power haki?

 

[Darkvie123]

You think Akainu would last after a Super Hybrid Thunder Bagua with full power haki?

He would beat Base Kaido he has one shot potential

 

[Darkvie123]

Do you really think that matters after what we saw with Kizaru and White Star Gun?

G5 Luffy fought Hybrid Kaido not Base. Base is weaker and was being dirty by Post Udon Base Luffy

 

[Kachon123]

Akainu destroys Base Kaidou.

 

[Darkvie123]

Akainu destroys Base Kaidou.

What abt Sickbeard?

 

[XDragnoir]

He would beat Base Kaido he has one shot potential

Base Kaido is trash, yeah, so I don't get why you're comparing him and Sickbeard, at least use Hybrid Kaido.

Tho we didn't get to see Base Kaido using his full haki so he could have done better than what we saw.

 

[Kachon123]

What abt Sickbeard?

Sickbeard loses.

 

[Darkvie123]

Base Kaido is trash, yeah, so I don't get why you're comparing him and Sickbeard, at least use Hybrid Kaido.

Tho we didn't get to see Base Kaido using his full haki so he could have done better than what we saw.

I had a debate with some ppl and they said Sickbeard would body Base Kaido bc he bodied Akainu who Akainu is stronger than Rooftop Novas who did Base Kaidou dirty. They made sense ngl

 

[Darkvie123]

Anyways. Blackbeard vs Kaido.?

 

[Kachon123]

Anyways. Blackbeard vs Kaido.?

Latest versions as of 1096 and 1050 respectively, Kaidou wins.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Akainu destroys Base Kaidou.

Almost all of your takes are Ls this is ridiculous

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Latest versions as of 1096 and 1050 respectively, Kaidou wins.

Besides this. Good job.

 

[Darkvie123]

Latest versions as of 1096 and 1050 respectively, Kaidou wins.

People putting BB Top 1 because of this statement btw: https://imgur.com/gallery/kpNY0iw

 

[Darkvie123]

Almost all of your takes are Ls this is ridiculous

You think Akainu is weaker than Scabbards and Rooftop Novas?...

 

[AnAverageUsername]

People putting BB Top 1 because of this statement btw: https://imgur.com/gallery/kpNY0iw

One on one, always bet on offscreen fights

 

[SlendVeny]

Didn't Doffy need his Awakening to even survive against Luffy?

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[Darkvie123]

One on one, always bet on offscreen fights

Doesnt that make BB rly the top 1 tho? emperor of fighting and beating commander tiers and low top tiers = Top 1 fr

 

[SlendVeny]

You think Akainu is weaker than Scabbards and Rooftop Novas?...

Akainu vs 9 Scabbards(Izou replacing Kanjuro)

 

[Darkvie123]

Akainu vs 9 Scabbards(Izou replacing Kanjuro)

Akainu low diff