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you think zoro can just cut the flames on the lunarians backs?
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One Piece General Discussion: Egghead
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DaMonkeMan
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True Ig.
Though he couldn't hit Luffy, so even his Awakened AP scaling makes no sense, because we don't see him hurt Luffy once.
Ped2018
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Well, maybe, though Luffy still couldn't one-shot him, so i think he at least downscales
DaMonkeMan
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He only downscales if he isn't significantly hurt.
First one made him cough blood and fly away.
Second sent him into a wall and may have cracked his neck
Third knocked him out, made him cough blood, and sent him into a wall again.
The only one that can make him downscale is the second one maybe.
Though that's durability and not AP, but his AP wouldn't matter because iirc it usually scales to his durability, so if he has shit dura he has shit AP.
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Yeah, the first time he dodged it made me convinced that he was indeed scared of KoH, no denying that.Because we never saw what would happen if KOH Zoro actually attacked King with his flame's on, and King himself with his flames on was dodging and blocking his attacks which Zoro even called him out for. I don't think it's a coincidence we never saw it happen and that even currently Zoro isn't using anything more than buso on the seraphim.
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What he did was not breaking or cracking his neck.
DBZ characters did it like every other episode as a form of stretching their neck muscles and as a form of flexing.
DaMonkeMan
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Eh...
It's something we never see before or after it, and I dunno why Oda would randomly choose to make Lucci crack his neck right after the attack.
Plus, it has a bit of a similar sfx to Ace's neck cracking ( Lucci's being "Crik!" )
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Tbh Lucci who didnt harn G5 Luffy still clashed with G5 Buso Luffy. Dont we scale characters based of clashes? Otherwise if Luffy with Buso was superior he would have overpowered Awakened Lucci with Buso
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Cant believe Twitter mfs say Kata is faster than Sanji
DaMonkeMan
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Eh.. It was more or less just callback.
If you look at the rest of the fight, you see Lucci getting blitzed and not being able to keep up with Luffy.
The clash is clearly an outlier, it's the only time he could keep up with Luffy and take an attack from him.
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Idk man make a CRT downgrade for Lucci then i think he downscales tho
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DaMonkeMan
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Yeah right.
They're not gonna take that very well if I do make it, would rather not.
Godly concession ngl
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He cuts flames, so he can cut King's flames, isn't that how it works?
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He cracked his own neck
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Yeah, this isn't DBZ Abridged where Krillin snapped his own neck trying to imitate Piccolo's neck crack.
DaMonkeMan
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Saw Yamato vs Lucci and Kaku on Worstgen.
What do y'all think?
Personally I think she wins low diff, they don't have an answer for her ice, for one.
For two, she has crazy endurance and durability, she took about 10 ACoC attacks from Kaidou and by the time she went to the lower levels of the castle she was fine, despite just one Hybrid TB being enough to injure Law and throw him away, getting past his Curtain too.
What do y'all think?
Personally I think she wins low diff, they don't have an answer for her ice, for one.
For two, she has crazy endurance and durability, she took about 10 ACoC attacks from Kaidou and by the time she went to the lower levels of the castle she was fine, despite just one Hybrid TB being enough to injure Law and throw him away, getting past his Curtain too.
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He cracks Lucci easy, cracks Kaku easier.
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Yamato high-extreme diff.
She mid-high diffs either individually.
Awakened Kaku and Awakened Lucci can at least take a few hits, since Kaku was undamaged by Buso Zoro while Lucci took multiple hits from G5. Also, they both scale above Rokushiki Kaku who clashed with S-Hawk.
That said, this is Yamato we're talking about, so she can gradually overpower them via superior AP, durability, and stamina. It's just that she'll have issues at first in a 2v1 against 2 more skilled fighters who have stat amps.
DaMonkeMan
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One: Zoro slammed Kaku, he didn't try to cut him.
Two: Lucci was more or less affected by at least 2 of the 3 attacks Luffy used on him, not counting the rock spitting one since... It's just rocks.
Three: Kaku didn't clash with S-Hawk, he just threw attacks at him and S-Hawk blocked/deflected.
Four: True, but she'll blitz before they can do anything. It's especially over if she uses an ice attack on them.
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Ok? Just because he was affected doesn't mean he didn't endure them.
Already explained why this isn't true, but as I already said, we see curved air slashes going both ways, and his Amane Dachi made S-Hawk dodge (even though it probably wouldn't have hurt him), so S-Hawk was taking him seriously.
Also, S-Hawk literally up and left since Kaku and Zoro were "troublesome" opponents.
She won't blitz Awakened Lucci.
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He can just hit Lucci with the Thunder Bagua
DaMonkeMan
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Yeah, but he got knocked out pretty quickly.
Few hits from Yamato and he's down for the count.
Yeah, cause he deflected them, lol.
He left because they weren't going down as quickly as he wanted, so he went to pick on weaker opponents.
She kept up with Kaidou, so she definitely can.
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Awakened Lucci downscales from G5 Luffy who scales above Bagua
DaMonkeMan
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He doesn't scale at all.
Each time, he got blitzed.
Save for Luffy trying to bite him, but tbf he was huge and was a few feet away from Lucci waiting for him to get closer, I'd be shocked if he didn't notice Luffy in time tbh.
And he couldn't even land a single hit on Luffy either.
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Only with Soru
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With Kamisori he flat out dodged a point blank attack
With normal Awakening his matched a punch from Luffy but otherwise was clearly slower.
DaMonkeMan
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Again pretty sure that clash would be an outlier if he could almost never react to Luffy outside of it nor hit him.
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Or have you considered that S-Hawk has been shown to do air slashes of his own?
DaMonkeMan
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Occam's razor.
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Not sure how that even applies here.
We even see in the left of the panel that 2 of the curved slashes clash with each other.
Even he wasn't sending out air slashes of his own, Kaku was still pressuring him, and as I said he felt the need to dodge the Amane Dachi.
Also, S-Hawk still viewed him as tough to take down, and Kaku fought him alongside Buso Zoro off-screen.
DaMonkeMan
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Oh brother.
Why would he just take attacks?
Sure they can't harm him but he probably doesn't know that him self.
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Actually, I just realized something.
He could block Nitoryu Buso Zoro's attacks, yet opted to dodge Amane Dachi rather than try and block it.
That said, Amane Dachi is the strongest Rankyaku technique, so it scaling above Nitoryu Buso Zoro wouldn't really be usable for his standard Rankyaku/Rokushiki. His Hybrid and above would still scale above it, but not his base Rokushiki or base Tekkai.
DaMonkeMan
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Didn't Zoro swat one of those really easily?
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That's either an outlier, since Base Kaku with no Rokushiki and Base Zoro were even, or Zoro used something like Buso off-screen to destroy it.
Also, it was aimed at the Sunny, not at Zoro.
DaMonkeMan
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Lmao.
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I was referring to 2-sword Buso Zoro, while Base Kaku with no Rokushiki fought Base 3-sword no-Haki Zoro.
2-sword Buso Zoro is much stronger than 3-sword no-Haki Zoro.
