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One Piece: Early Post-Timeskip and God Tiers AP Revision

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KingTempest said:
Agreed, but the main thing is that Kata gets his scaling from G3rd (and basically the gatling), which is causing these issues.

So Luffy can just scale to Jinbe.

But still, would/should Luffy backscale from his G2nd self?
Cause he can fight Bellamy who can hurt him, and his dura scales to G2nd
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Wait, doesn't G3rd scale to only 7.57 gigatons?

And we could possibly Backscale Luffy to High 7-A+.
 
Ah, I see. How exactly was it implied that G3 > Hawk Gatling?

Also, since Zoro thought that he could take on Issho even after seeing Gear 2+3 Luffy (who is far above G3) get walloped by Issho, should Zoro at least be comparable to G2+3 Luffy?
 
KingTempest said:
Zoro
Is not
Scaling
To that level

Okay?

Like goddamn
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@Eseseso
kiryu-slapping.gif
 
Therefir said:
That sort of scaling only works on OPM threads.
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We only do that when people have multiple statements that are consistent and come from different people, not from themselves. If that wasn't the case BoS Genos would be 6-C.
 
I found a way around it. Thank god.

Ok well we should change Luffy's durability rating to scaling from Jinbe.
 
GodlyCharmander said:
Hey, got my PC back. Finished some details.

Sandbox is done (or at least presentable enough): https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:GodlyCharmander/One_Piece:_Post-Timeskip_AP

You may check, ask questions, or tell me about mistakes in our editing.
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These are 80 pages we need to apply the changes to. Good god. :)

KingTempest said:
I found a way around it. Thank god.

Ok well we should change Luffy's durability rating to scaling from Jinbe.
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Ah, yes; it begins!

Fixing.
 
GodlyCharmander said:
Hey, got my PC back. Finished some details.

Sandbox is done (or at least presentable enough): https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:GodlyCharmander/One_Piece:_Post-Timeskip_AP

You may check, ask questions, or tell me about mistakes in our editing.
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I can see it.

Luffy: higher with Gear 2nd (Since his Jet Gatling destroyed Doffy's Black Knight, his regular AP should be superior to the durability of a single string)
It links to the old string durability calc.
 
Glitching for me too. ughhhh

I can edit now (I think)

Edit: Nevermind
 
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I thought you guys ditched kaido scaling above whitebeard via oden's statement. It's still in kaido's justification.
 
KingTempest said:
Agreed, but the main thing is that Kata gets his scaling from G3rd (and basically the gatling), which is causing these issues.
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Katakuri overpowering Luffy's Gear 3 doesn't make his ordinary attacks equal or superior to Gear 3, as far as I can tell. He basically had to use his own bigger version of Elephant Gun to beat Luffy's.

(Sorry if I'm chiming in here a bit late)
 
Damage3245 said:
Katakuri overpowering Luffy's Gear 3 doesn't make his ordinary attacks equal or superior to Gear 3, as far as I can tell. He basically had to use his own bigger version of Elephant Gun to beat Luffy's.
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Katakuri > Biscuit Soldier > Gear 3rd
We're not scaling off of that interaction
 
KingTempest said:
Katakuri > Biscuit Soldier > Gear 3rd
We're not scaling off of that interaction
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I see. Though I don't think there'd be scaling issues with Bellamy to Gear 3 if Dressrosa Luffy and WCI Luffy were split.
 
GodlyCharmander said:
Hey, got my PC back. Finished some details.

Sandbox is done (or at least presentable enough): https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:GodlyCharmander/One_Piece:_Post-Timeskip_AP

You may check, ask questions, or tell me about mistakes in our editing.
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1. Wadatsumi in base is 2.5 gigatons, so he should be High 7-A, not High 7-A+.

2. Why is Monster Point Chopper 6-C?

3. Why is all that stuff for Zoro crossed out?

4. Why is Zoro with Buso 6-C+, and why is his striking strength and durability both large Island level with Asura?
 
Eseseso said:
1. Wadatsumi in base is 2.5 gigatons, so he should be High 7-A, not High 7-A+.
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Jinbe scales to Gear 2nd so no.
Eseseso said:
3. Why is all that stuff for Zoro crossed out?
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Wano scaling that's not being covered in this thread.
Eseseso said:
4. Why is Zoro with Buso 6-C+, and why is his striking strength and durability both large Island level with Asura?
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He upscales from his base rating, Asura is 3 times stronger than his Buso Santoryu.
 
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A couple of quick questions:

1. Robin casually restrained Hakuba, so why is she put at 5.03 Gigatons while Hakuba is at 10.07 Gigatons?

2. Doesn't Rebecca's encounters with Hakuba (Ch. 734) and Diamante (Ch. 739) prove that Diamante is physically stronger than Hakuba when he shattered her helmet while Hakuba's sword strike couldn't?
 
Eminiteable said:
Jinbe scales to Gear 2nd so no.
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??

Gear 2nd is 5.03 gigatons, and Wadatsumi with 1 steroid matched Jinbei so he should also be 5.03 gigatons, and steroid-less Wadatsumi is 1/2 of that, so he would be 2.515 gigatons, which is below High 7-A+.
Eminiteable said:
Wano scaling that's not being covered in this thread.
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Got it.

If we're doing that, how about we remove Luffy's post-Onigashima key too?
Eminiteable said:
He upscales from his base rating, Asura is 3 times stronger than his Buso Santoryu.
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So after looking at the sandbox, if I understand correctly:

Nitoryu Zoro > 30 gigatons (due to breaking Monet's Ice Wall which tanked a Jet Gatling).

Santoryu Zoro > 45 gigatons (1.5 times Nitoryu)

Buso-Santoryu Zoro upscales to Baseline 6-C+, aka 52.15 gigatons (as the difference is only 1.16x)

And Asura is 3x that, so 156.45 gigatons.
 
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Eseseso said:
??

Gear 2nd is 5.03 gigatons, and Wadatsumi with 1 steroid matched Jinbei so he should also be 5.03 gigatons, and steroid-less Wadatsumi is 1/2 of that, so he would be 2.515 gigatons, which is below High 7-A+.
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You're right, my bad. Misread what you said.
Eseseso said:
Got it.

If we're doing that, how about we remove Luffy's post-Onigashima key too?
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I agree
Eseseso said:
So after looking at the sandbox, if I understand correctly:
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Yep
 
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