One Piece Discussion Thread #4

[The_Calaca]

No he hasn't.

Actually I'm looking back at Skypiea and he has resistance to heat coming from the golden ball when he destroyed the Raigo. But that's less than 1,000 Celsius since that's the melting temperature for gold.

 

[-BANLK-]

Kaido will soon know the meaning of pain.

 

[The_Calaca]

Kaido's wish will finally be fulfilled.

Meme for the final of the arc:

And remember kids. Don't mess with Luffy's nakama. Until later! RIP

 

[Damage3245]

Zoro should not have Resistance to Gravity on his profile. I don't know why it was added back in.

 

[Ryope]

No he hasn't.
Actually I'm looking back at Skypiea and he has resistance to heat coming from the golden ball when he destroyed the Raigo. But that's less than 1,000 Celsius since that's the melting temperature for gold.

The fact that Luffy can perform Red Hawk without burnning him body is Fire manipulation resistance feat(with Buso haki).. And Luffy always tank fire attacks in the series( Mr. 5's explosions caesar's explosions etc etc) he definitely shoud have Fire manipulation resistance in his profile

 

[The_Calaca]

I know but that's why I'm looking for every feat to prove it. He has Heat Manipulation against Caesar but that isn't Fire Manipulation resistance.

And even then fire is energy so it's safer to say that he's resistant to fire at the same or higher level than him i.e. Kaido's breath.

People here are reluctant when it comes to profiles. Heck Big Mom's resistance to the elements of their own homies got rejected for some reason I don't understand.

 

[Js250476]

https://youtu.be/3hgY12luWDY

 

[Damage3245]

That is honestly a terrible video.

 

[Js250476]

Happy Hallowee

 

[Damage3245]

Happy Halloween!

Time to reread Thriller Bark.

 

[Js250476]

I didn't mention it before but I love how Brook is dressed up despite already being a skeleton lol talk about getting into Halloween spirit

Feels like something he'd joke about to

 

[Phoenix821]

It's Brook is it really that surprising, he'd probably make a Skull joke out of it somehow.

 

[Js250476]

Well no but it's something I find amusing much like Brook himself

Also like the details like Franky is Frankenstein's Monster and Robin is a devil

 

[Rin_The_Dragon_Empress]

Oof I'd suggest looking at the spoilers for the next chapter.

 

[ZackMoon1234]

THE SPOILERS ARE ******* CRAZY

AHHHH

 

[Damage3245]

Or... if you'd prefer to be surprised and see what happens when the chapter comes out, don't read the spoilers

 

[The_Calaca]

It's been years since the last time I read spoiler. I prefer the surprise.

 

[AstralKing7]

Same lmfao. One piece use to be one of those series where it was so lit that I could only watch the action in the anime. The story and writing and action was just so good that I couldn't sit through all of the slow scenes and stuff

 

[Ryope]

SÎØ Kaido one shot Gear 4 Luffy and no sell his attacks.. really? that start to feel like Dragon Ball now,what ridiculous PU Luffy going to get now in order stand a change against him

 

[Standuser081]

I don't think that's gonna happen. Oda's better than that.

 

[Damage3245]

Is everyone okay with changing Kaido's stats to this?

Attack Potency: At least Island level (Regarded as the strongest creature in the world. Defeated Luffy in a single strike)

Speed: Massively Hypersonic (Blitzed Luffy in one-on-one combat)

Lifting Strength: Unknow

Striking Strength: At least Island Class (Defeated Luffy in a single strike)

Durability: At least Island level, likely higher (Took a barrage of Luffy's strongest Gear 3 and 4 attacks without showing any injuries)

 

[Stefano4444]

Attack Potency: At least Island level+, likely higher (Regarded as the strongest creature in the world. Defeated Gear 4 Luffy in a single strike)

Speed: At least Massively Hypersonic, likely higher (Blitzed Gear 4 Luffy in one-on-one combat)

Lifting Strength: Unknow

Striking Strength: At least Island Class+, likely higher (Defeated Luffy in a single strike)

Durability: At least Island level+, likely higher (Took a barrage of Luffy's strongest Gear 3 and 4 attacks without showing any injuries)

Fixed, you forgot to add the plus since Aokiji is already At least Island level+.

 

[Damage3245]

Thanks.

Although I don't think that should be At least Massively Hypersonic, should it?

 

[I_am_myself_You_are_you]

I disagree lt means downgrade.kaido is High 6-C via 4Emperor if we changing Kaido's stats Will make the tier seem incorrect.

We just added a description on kaido's profile, said that oneshot luffy.

 

[Damage3245]

I disagree lt means downgrade.kaido is High 6-C via 4Emperor if we changing Kaido's stats Will make the tier seem incorrect.
We just added a description on kaido's profile, said that oneshot luffy.

Yonkou need to be downgraded anyway. Whitebeard's High 6-C calc is incorrect and none of the other Yonkou have any other High 6-C calcs.

 

[Stefano4444]

I disagree lt means downgrade.kaido is High 6-C via 4Emperor if we changing Kaido's stats Will make the tier seem incorrect.
We just added a description on kaido's profile, said that oneshot luffy.

With the remove of WB's quake as valid feat then at most we can tier him at Likely High 6-C, for be stronger than a casual Aokiji (who is 87.5795 Gigatons) and for oneshotting Gear 4 Luffy (who can stomp Doflamingo, who should be comparable with a casual Aokiji).

 

[I_am_myself_You_are_you]

Oh luffy downgrading to?

 

[Stefano4444]

Thanks.
Although I don't think that should be At least Massively Hypersonic, should it?

Kaido > Gear 4th Luffy > Post Timeskip Gear 2nd Luffy > Post Timeskip Base Luffy > Pre Timeskip Gear 2nd Luffy > Pre Timeskip Base Luffy => Blueno > Kalifa = Mach 271.

Pretty sure that it more than ok to add the At least.

 

[Damage3245]

Another way of looking at it is:

Kaido > Gear 4th Luffy > Doflamingo >= Mach 295

 

[Graf_Thorsdottir]

What's wrong with the Whitebeard calc?

 

[Damage3245]

What's wrong with the Whitebeard calc?

The assumptions behind the method used to get the distance of 16,500+ kilometres are essentially baseless, and if the distance is invalid than the force of the earthquakes is invalid.

 

[Stefano4444]

Another way of looking at it is:
Kaido > Gear 4th Luffy > Doflamingo >= Mach 295

Unless you want to suggest that Doffy is only slightly faster than Kalifa then this is a big no.

To be frank Doffy should as well be put at At least Massively Hypersonic.

 

[Damage3245]

Or perhaps we're just overestimating Kalifa slightly. Not saying her feat/calc is definitely wrong, but I wonder about its consistency in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Stefano4444]

Or perhaps we're just overestimating Kalifa slightly. Not saying her feat/calc is definitely wrong, but I wonder about its consistency in the grand scheme of things.

In the very previous arc there had been plenty of lightning dodging feats performed by several characters, even from the likes of Nami and Usopp.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Calaca_Vs/Luffy_and_Nami_dodging_lightning (look also to my comments for see Nami and Usopp's dodging feats)

So no, Kalifa's feat is quite consistent with what other characters had show previously.

 

[RoronoaxRobin]

Since changes are being made to Kaido's page after the fight with Luffy, shouldn't Limited Electricity Manipulation (via Divine Thunder) also be added to his Powers and Abilities?

 

[The_Calaca]

With no disrespect Damage. You're always saying we overestimate everything.

Also, don't you remember the Fuji's calc which list Doffy at Mach 400+?

 

[Sword_guy_Z]

The Yonko don't need to be downgraded. They are scaled to Fujitora's meteor feat and therefore, should remain where they are. Also, someone should call the distance between Kaido's sitting down and sighing to his place after he hits Luffy. As for the discussion about what it should say on his profile... Kaido: Needs to be changed to At least High 6C as he not only took no evident damage from a barrage of Luffy's attacks in both G3 and G4 (both of which are accepted as island level) without using Haki to defend himself and proceeded to one shot him in his strongest form. Honestly though, Luffy's profile is wrong. It should be At Least 6C, as he defeated Katakuri who is listed as At Least 6C. These pages are a mess.

 

[Sword_guy_Z]

I didn't elaborate with what his speed should be. I believe it should be left alone until someone can calc the feat. I'm busy today, but if no one does it then I can try to over the weekend.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

DID I JUST READ THAT?! Lmao, Kaido casually One Shot G4 Luffy.

 

[Damage3245]

> They are scaled to Fujitora's meteor feat

There is absolutely nothing scaling them to Fujitora's meteors.

With no disrespect Damage. You're always saying we overestimate everything. Also, don't you remember the Fuji's calc which list Doffy at Mach 400+?

I thought that was recaled to Mach 295 but I must have looked at the wrong section.