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One Piece Chapter 1071: "The Hero Deploys" (Official)

TheMonkeMan said:
If another person pings me with this same stupid ******* argument I'm actually going to lose it
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To start with, Lucci, as a Masked Agent, automatically scales above the base CP0 agents, who themselves scale above CP9. So Lucci already is definitively stronger than what he was at Enies Lobby. CP0 agents such as Guernica, and Maha both displayed Yonko Commander Level feats. Maha tied with Izo who as one of the Nine Red Scabbards is likely superior to Tobiroppo. Guernica defeated X-Drake who blocked a strike from Base Yamato and held his own against Apoo (who was also defeated by Guernica). Both agents withstood Kazenbo which made Yamato scream in pain. Lucci was also acknowledged as a prodigy on par with Who’s Who, who had the highest bounty amongst the Tobiroppo and was portrayed as being the strongest and even on par with Jack. This paints a picture of the Masked Agents being Yonko Commander Level. In scaling chain form it would look something like this:

Guernica: >X-Drake ~ Base Yamato (Yonko Commander Level)

Maha: = Izo > Tobi Roppo (Yonko Commander Level)

Lucci (as a confirmed Armament Haki, and Awakened Zoan Devil Fruit User) upscales from this. The Rokuougan is the ultimate technique of Rokushiki and exclusive to Lucci showing the highest skill of any Rokushiki user. Due to upscaling to Guernica, and Maha, Lucci is not restricted to their level of power. He shows enough strength to fight with an Armament Enhanced Gear 5th Luffy. Gear 5th should naturally be stronger than Gear 3rd which harmed a Zoan Kaidou. Although possibly a joke scene, Atlas was able to withstand an attack from Base Luffy with no damage, whilst she was nearly killed by Hybrid Lucci’s Rokuogan. In scaling chain form it looks like this:

Lucci (Hybrid): < Rokuogan > > Atlas > Luffy (Base) (Yonko Commander Level +)

Lucci (Awakened): > Gear 3rd ~ Weakened Zoan Kaidou ~ Weakened Hybrid Kaidou ~ Yamato (Base + Advanced Haki) (Low Yonko Level)

In conclusion Lucci is easily more powerful than any Straw Hat other than Luffy, and far above any Yonko Commander (other than Marco) without Awakening.
 
That_moron said:
To start with, Lucci, as a Masked Agent, automatically scales above the base CP0 agents, who themselves scale above CP9. So Lucci already is definitively stronger than what he was at Enies Lobby. CP0 agents such as Guernica, and Maha both displayed Yonko Commander Level feats. Maha tied with Izo who as one of the Nine Red Scabbards is likely superior to Tobiroppo. Guernica defeated X-Drake who blocked a strike from Base Yamato and held his own against Apoo (who was also defeated by Guernica). Both agents withstood Kazenbo which made Yamato scream in pain. Lucci was also acknowledged as a prodigy on par with Who’s Who, who had the highest bounty amongst the Tobiroppo and was portrayed as being the strongest and even on par with Jack. This paints a picture of the Masked Agents being Yonko Commander Level. In scaling chain form it would look something like this:

Guernica: >X-Drake ~ Base Yamato (Yonko Commander Level)
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Nah, X Drake was overpowered by Yamato, he only downscales to Scabbard lvl from her, nothing more.

Rest of this is more or less on point, tho Jack >>> WW.
That_moron said:
Maha: = Izo > Tobi Roppo (Yonko Commander Level)

Lucci (as a confirmed Armament Haki, and Awakened Zoan Devil Fruit User) upscales from this. The Rokuougan is the ultimate technique of Rokushiki and exclusive to Lucci showing the highest skill of any Rokushiki user. Due to upscaling to Guernica, and Maha, Lucci is not restricted to their level of power. He shows enough strength to fight with an Armament Enhanced Gear 5th Luffy. Gear 5th should naturally be stronger than Gear 3rd which harmed a Zoan Kaidou. Although possibly a joke scene, Atlas was able to withstand an attack from Base Luffy with no damage, whilst she was nearly killed by Hybrid Lucci’s Rokuogan. In scaling chain form it looks like this:

Lucci (Hybrid): < Rokuogan > > Atlas > Luffy (Base) (Yonko Commander Level +)

Lucci (Awakened): > Gear 3rd ~ Weakened Zoan Kaidou ~ Weakened Hybrid Kaidou ~ Yamato (Base + Advanced Haki) (Low Yonko Level)

In conclusion Lucci is easily more powerful than any Straw Hat other than Luffy, and far above any Yonko Commander (other than Marco) without Awakening.
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Like this asides from minor errrors, although Rokugan is dura neg.

Also, while it makes total sense for Base Lucci to scale to Guernica, unfortunately there is nothing to actually support this.
 
That_moron said:
To start with, Lucci, as a Masked Agent, automatically scales above the base CP0 agents, who themselves scale above CP9. So Lucci already is definitively stronger than what he was at Enies Lobby. CP0 agents such as Guernica, and Maha both displayed Yonko Commander Level feats. Maha tied with Izo who as one of the Nine Red Scabbards is likely superior to Tobiroppo. Guernica defeated X-Drake who blocked a strike from Base Yamato and held his own against Apoo (who was also defeated by Guernica). Both agents withstood Kazenbo which made Yamato scream in pain. Lucci was also acknowledged as a prodigy on par with Who’s Who, who had the highest bounty amongst the Tobiroppo and was portrayed as being the strongest and even on par with Jack. This paints a picture of the Masked Agents being Yonko Commander Level. In scaling chain form it would look something like this:

Guernica: >X-Drake ~ Base Yamato (Yonko Commander Level)

Maha: = Izo > Tobi Roppo (Yonko Commander Level)

Lucci (as a confirmed Armament Haki, and Awakened Zoan Devil Fruit User) upscales from this. The Rokuougan is the ultimate technique of Rokushiki and exclusive to Lucci showing the highest skill of any Rokushiki user. Due to upscaling to Guernica, and Maha, Lucci is not restricted to their level of power. He shows enough strength to fight with an Armament Enhanced Gear 5th Luffy. Gear 5th should naturally be stronger than Gear 3rd which harmed a Zoan Kaidou. Although possibly a joke scene, Atlas was able to withstand an attack from Base Luffy with no damage, whilst she was nearly killed by Hybrid Lucci’s Rokuogan. In scaling chain form it looks like this:

Lucci (Hybrid): < Rokuogan > > Atlas > Luffy (Base) (Yonko Commander Level +)
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I'm pretty sure a basic punch from Luffy ( as in literally no Haki or anything ) isn't YC+ but pop off bro
Also the funniest part is that technically Guernica would be more durable than Lucci for (supposedly) taking an attack from a very pissed Super Hybrid Kaidou with ACoC and surviving, while 3 basic G5 attacks knocked Lucci out.
That_moron said:
Lucci (Awakened): > Gear 3rd ~ Weakened Zoan Kaidou ~ Weakened Hybrid Kaidou ~ Yamato (Base + Advanced Haki) (Low Yonko Level)
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I don't really think we have proof for this right now but pop off I guess.
That_moron said:
In conclusion Lucci is easily more powerful than any Straw Hat other than Luffy, and far above any Yonko Commander (other than Marco) without Awakening.
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I mean, I doubt this.
There's Sabo who's implied to be on Lucci's level or above ( all Oda said was that they fight each other a lot although we don't know if this means they were close in power ), King who probably has more speed and durability. Zoro who's above him for pretty blatant reasons. Shiryu who might be above him if he's comparable to Zoro, though he might have a gimmick where he doesn't really need to rely on good stats. Benn Beckman is supposedly relative/comparable to Shanks, iirc.
 
That_moron said:
I at first wrote X-Drake <= Yamato but I didn't like how it looked.
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HA!

Base X-Drake only blocked it for a moment before he got sent flying, so Yamato >>> Base Drake.

However, Base Drake did fight Apoo offscreen and was confident that he could kill Apoo in base, and Apoo's dura downscales from Kid's attack.

The Zoan form that lost to Guernica does downscale from Guernica's own durability, but also hurt Apoo, matched his AP that matched a semi-serious Buso Zoro, and took hits from Apoo's DF (off-screen).
TheMonkeMan said:
I'm pretty sure a basic punch from Luffy ( as in literally no Haki or anything ) isn't YC+ but pop off bro
Also the funniest part is that technically Guernica would be more durable than Lucci for (supposedly) taking an attack from a very pissed Super Hybrid Kaidou with ACoC and surviving, while 3 basic G5 attacks knocked Lucci out.
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I mean, Guernica was considered one of the WG's top assets and his death was considered a massive loss by the 5 Elders, so even by CP0 standards he was elite.

Is he above Awakened Lucci? Probably not.

But even by CP0 standards, the dude was probably still a beast.
TheMonkeMan said:
I mean, I doubt this.
There's Sabo who's implied to be on Lucci's level or above ( all Oda said was that they fight each other a lot although we don't know if this means they were close in power ), King who probably has more speed and durability. Zoro who's above him for pretty blatant reasons. Shiryu who might be above him if he's comparable to Zoro, though he might have a gimmick where he doesn't really need to rely on good stats. Benn Beckman is supposedly relative/comparable to Shanks, iirc.
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I think Lucci's Awakened Form is around the same level as Zoro, Marco, and King.

His Rokushiki does give him plenty of options, such as an incredible durability boost in the form of Tekkai (that pre-timeskip basically doubled his durability), a nice speed boost, and a powerful dura neg move in the form of Rokugan (which against King could be incredibly useful since no way can he get past King's broken durability otherwise)
 
TheMonkeMan said:
m pretty sure a basic punch from Luffy ( as in literally no Haki or anything ) isn't YC+ but pop off bro
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But when Lucci's Rokuogan is like double that, on top of Luffy doing no damage to Atlas. Then it might be.
TheMonkeMan said:
Also the funniest part is that technically Guernica would be more durable than Lucci for (supposedly) taking an attack from a very pissed Super Hybrid Kaidou with ACoC and surviving, while 3 basic G5 attacks knocked Lucci out.
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3 named attacks from fresh G5, which he then came out of almost unscathed. Guernica thought he was gonna die. Kaidou was also weakened at this point.
 
That_moron said:
To start with, Lucci, as a Masked Agent, automatically scales above the base CP0 agents, who themselves scale above CP9. So Lucci already is definitively stronger than what he was at Enies Lobby. CP0 agents such as Guernica, and Maha both displayed Yonko Commander Level feats. Maha tied with Izo who as one of the Nine Red Scabbards is likely superior to Tobiroppo. Guernica defeated X-Drake who blocked a strike from Base Yamato and held his own against Apoo (who was also defeated by Guernica). Both agents withstood Kazenbo which made Yamato scream in pain. Lucci was also acknowledged as a prodigy on par with Who’s Who, who had the highest bounty amongst the Tobiroppo and was portrayed as being the strongest and even on par with Jack. This paints a picture of the Masked Agents being Yonko Commander Level. In scaling chain form it would look something like this:

Guernica: >X-Drake ~ Base Yamato (Yonko Commander Level)

Maha: = Izo > Tobi Roppo (Yonko Commander Level)

Lucci (as a confirmed Armament Haki, and Awakened Zoan Devil Fruit User) upscales from this. The Rokuougan is the ultimate technique of Rokushiki and exclusive to Lucci showing the highest skill of any Rokushiki user. Due to upscaling to Guernica, and Maha, Lucci is not restricted to their level of power. He shows enough strength to fight with an Armament Enhanced Gear 5th Luffy. Gear 5th should naturally be stronger than Gear 3rd which harmed a Zoan Kaidou. Although possibly a joke scene, Atlas was able to withstand an attack from Base Luffy with no damage, whilst she was nearly killed by Hybrid Lucci’s Rokuogan. In scaling chain form it looks like this:

Lucci (Hybrid): < Rokuogan > > Atlas > Luffy (Base) (Yonko Commander Level +)

Lucci (Awakened): > Gear 3rd ~ Weakened Zoan Kaidou ~ Weakened Hybrid Kaidou ~ Yamato (Base + Advanced Haki) (Low Yonko Level)

In conclusion Lucci is easily more powerful than any Straw Hat other than Luffy, and far above any Yonko Commander (other than Marco) without Awakening.
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Lucci’s not stronger than Full Power Zoro imo. Hes beating Sanji & Jinbe at best (ofc not 2v1 just in 1v1). The feats Zoro has shown in the Rooftop and being fatigued beating King (we dont know if the drug healed Zoro fully since Zoro still had his bones shattered vs King even tho he didnt feel it we should take that in consideration.
 
I still can't belive that Kaido & BM can match BB's quake ability without any DF powers nor Advanced Haki.
 
TheMonkeMan said:
AND LAW TOO
THAT MF IS STRONG MAN
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Law is a beast.

Dude hurt Kaido and BM with methods that didn't even use dura neg (Counter Shock, Takt, Injection Shot), and his awakening made Big Mom roar in pain and fear/respect his awakened attacks.

And he has one of the best durability feats by taking a Buso amped beatdown from Bigger Mom without even defending himself.
 
..Isn't Kaidou resistant/immune to Electricity?
Though him dodging a lightning bolt from Lfufy could contradict that but that was probably an inconsistency.
 
Why's everyone assuming Blackbeard is gonna run away from Garp? Wasn't he ready to fight both Garp and Sengoku when his whole crew was present?
And people forget Blackbeard only retreats when he's the aggressor/underprepared. This time Garp's going to HIS territory, he's probably gonna have to fight for it through and through. Luffy's losing another relative soon
 
TheMonkeMan said:
Vice Admirals are goofy fodder at this point lol.
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Minus Garp, Tsuru, Brown Pig, Peach Rabbit & maybe Bogard. Bogard's rank is unknown tbf, I'll just assume he's a Vice Admiral for now.
TheMonkeMan said:
..Isn't Kaidou resistant/immune to Electricity?
Though him dodging a lightning bolt from Lfufy could contradict that but that was probably an inconsistency.
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When was it said Kaido's immune to electricity?
Even if he's, at the very least, resistant to it; G5 might have enhanced the lightning bolt to the point that it could've effected Kaido much like how he made the ground tough enough to deflect the Blast Breath.
 
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