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Them's fighting words.Kid screentime though I snooze
Law had his time to shine and then some.
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Them's fighting words.Kid screentime though I snooze
To start with, Lucci, as a Masked Agent, automatically scales above the base CP0 agents, who themselves scale above CP9. So Lucci already is definitively stronger than what he was at Enies Lobby. CP0 agents such as Guernica, and Maha both displayed Yonko Commander Level feats. Maha tied with Izo who as one of the Nine Red Scabbards is likely superior to Tobiroppo. Guernica defeated X-Drake who blocked a strike from Base Yamato and held his own against Apoo (who was also defeated by Guernica). Both agents withstood Kazenbo which made Yamato scream in pain. Lucci was also acknowledged as a prodigy on par with Who’s Who, who had the highest bounty amongst the Tobiroppo and was portrayed as being the strongest and even on par with Jack. This paints a picture of the Masked Agents being Yonko Commander Level. In scaling chain form it would look something like this:If another person pings me with this same stupid ******* argument I'm actually going to lose it
Nah, X Drake was overpowered by Yamato, he only downscales to Scabbard lvl from her, nothing more.To start with, Lucci, as a Masked Agent, automatically scales above the base CP0 agents, who themselves scale above CP9. So Lucci already is definitively stronger than what he was at Enies Lobby. CP0 agents such as Guernica, and Maha both displayed Yonko Commander Level feats. Maha tied with Izo who as one of the Nine Red Scabbards is likely superior to Tobiroppo. Guernica defeated X-Drake who blocked a strike from Base Yamato and held his own against Apoo (who was also defeated by Guernica). Both agents withstood Kazenbo which made Yamato scream in pain. Lucci was also acknowledged as a prodigy on par with Who’s Who, who had the highest bounty amongst the Tobiroppo and was portrayed as being the strongest and even on par with Jack. This paints a picture of the Masked Agents being Yonko Commander Level. In scaling chain form it would look something like this:
Guernica: >X-Drake ~ Base Yamato (Yonko Commander Level)
Like this asides from minor errrors, although Rokugan is dura neg.Maha: = Izo > Tobi Roppo (Yonko Commander Level)
Lucci (as a confirmed Armament Haki, and Awakened Zoan Devil Fruit User) upscales from this. The Rokuougan is the ultimate technique of Rokushiki and exclusive to Lucci showing the highest skill of any Rokushiki user. Due to upscaling to Guernica, and Maha, Lucci is not restricted to their level of power. He shows enough strength to fight with an Armament Enhanced Gear 5th Luffy. Gear 5th should naturally be stronger than Gear 3rd which harmed a Zoan Kaidou. Although possibly a joke scene, Atlas was able to withstand an attack from Base Luffy with no damage, whilst she was nearly killed by Hybrid Lucci’s Rokuogan. In scaling chain form it looks like this:
Lucci (Hybrid): < Rokuogan > > Atlas > Luffy (Base) (Yonko Commander Level +)
Lucci (Awakened): > Gear 3rd ~ Weakened Zoan Kaidou ~ Weakened Hybrid Kaidou ~ Yamato (Base + Advanced Haki) (Low Yonko Level)
In conclusion Lucci is easily more powerful than any Straw Hat other than Luffy, and far above any Yonko Commander (other than Marco) without Awakening.
I at first wrote X-Drake <= Yamato but I didn't like how it looked.Nah, X Drake was overpowered by Yamato, he only downscales to Scabbard lvl from her, nothing more.
I'm pretty sure a basic punch from Luffy ( as in literally no Haki or anything ) isn't YC+ but pop off broTo start with, Lucci, as a Masked Agent, automatically scales above the base CP0 agents, who themselves scale above CP9. So Lucci already is definitively stronger than what he was at Enies Lobby. CP0 agents such as Guernica, and Maha both displayed Yonko Commander Level feats. Maha tied with Izo who as one of the Nine Red Scabbards is likely superior to Tobiroppo. Guernica defeated X-Drake who blocked a strike from Base Yamato and held his own against Apoo (who was also defeated by Guernica). Both agents withstood Kazenbo which made Yamato scream in pain. Lucci was also acknowledged as a prodigy on par with Who’s Who, who had the highest bounty amongst the Tobiroppo and was portrayed as being the strongest and even on par with Jack. This paints a picture of the Masked Agents being Yonko Commander Level. In scaling chain form it would look something like this:
Guernica: >X-Drake ~ Base Yamato (Yonko Commander Level)
Maha: = Izo > Tobi Roppo (Yonko Commander Level)
Lucci (as a confirmed Armament Haki, and Awakened Zoan Devil Fruit User) upscales from this. The Rokuougan is the ultimate technique of Rokushiki and exclusive to Lucci showing the highest skill of any Rokushiki user. Due to upscaling to Guernica, and Maha, Lucci is not restricted to their level of power. He shows enough strength to fight with an Armament Enhanced Gear 5th Luffy. Gear 5th should naturally be stronger than Gear 3rd which harmed a Zoan Kaidou. Although possibly a joke scene, Atlas was able to withstand an attack from Base Luffy with no damage, whilst she was nearly killed by Hybrid Lucci’s Rokuogan. In scaling chain form it looks like this:
Lucci (Hybrid): < Rokuogan > > Atlas > Luffy (Base) (Yonko Commander Level +)
I don't really think we have proof for this right now but pop off I guess.Lucci (Awakened): > Gear 3rd ~ Weakened Zoan Kaidou ~ Weakened Hybrid Kaidou ~ Yamato (Base + Advanced Haki) (Low Yonko Level)
I mean, I doubt this.In conclusion Lucci is easily more powerful than any Straw Hat other than Luffy, and far above any Yonko Commander (other than Marco) without Awakening.
HA!I at first wrote X-Drake <= Yamato but I didn't like how it looked.
I mean, Guernica was considered one of the WG's top assets and his death was considered a massive loss by the 5 Elders, so even by CP0 standards he was elite.I'm pretty sure a basic punch from Luffy ( as in literally no Haki or anything ) isn't YC+ but pop off bro
Also the funniest part is that technically Guernica would be more durable than Lucci for (supposedly) taking an attack from a very pissed Super Hybrid Kaidou with ACoC and surviving, while 3 basic G5 attacks knocked Lucci out.
I think Lucci's Awakened Form is around the same level as Zoro, Marco, and King.I mean, I doubt this.
There's Sabo who's implied to be on Lucci's level or above ( all Oda said was that they fight each other a lot although we don't know if this means they were close in power ), King who probably has more speed and durability. Zoro who's above him for pretty blatant reasons. Shiryu who might be above him if he's comparable to Zoro, though he might have a gimmick where he doesn't really need to rely on good stats. Benn Beckman is supposedly relative/comparable to Shanks, iirc.
But when Lucci's Rokuogan is like double that, on top of Luffy doing no damage to Atlas. Then it might be.m pretty sure a basic punch from Luffy ( as in literally no Haki or anything ) isn't YC+ but pop off bro
3 named attacks from fresh G5, which he then came out of almost unscathed. Guernica thought he was gonna die. Kaidou was also weakened at this point.Also the funniest part is that technically Guernica would be more durable than Lucci for (supposedly) taking an attack from a very pissed Super Hybrid Kaidou with ACoC and surviving, while 3 basic G5 attacks knocked Lucci out.
Lucci’s not stronger than Full Power Zoro imo. Hes beating Sanji & Jinbe at best (ofc not 2v1 just in 1v1). The feats Zoro has shown in the Rooftop and being fatigued beating King (we dont know if the drug healed Zoro fully since Zoro still had his bones shattered vs King even tho he didnt feel it we should take that in consideration.To start with, Lucci, as a Masked Agent, automatically scales above the base CP0 agents, who themselves scale above CP9. So Lucci already is definitively stronger than what he was at Enies Lobby. CP0 agents such as Guernica, and Maha both displayed Yonko Commander Level feats. Maha tied with Izo who as one of the Nine Red Scabbards is likely superior to Tobiroppo. Guernica defeated X-Drake who blocked a strike from Base Yamato and held his own against Apoo (who was also defeated by Guernica). Both agents withstood Kazenbo which made Yamato scream in pain. Lucci was also acknowledged as a prodigy on par with Who’s Who, who had the highest bounty amongst the Tobiroppo and was portrayed as being the strongest and even on par with Jack. This paints a picture of the Masked Agents being Yonko Commander Level. In scaling chain form it would look something like this:
Guernica: >X-Drake ~ Base Yamato (Yonko Commander Level)
Maha: = Izo > Tobi Roppo (Yonko Commander Level)
Lucci (as a confirmed Armament Haki, and Awakened Zoan Devil Fruit User) upscales from this. The Rokuougan is the ultimate technique of Rokushiki and exclusive to Lucci showing the highest skill of any Rokushiki user. Due to upscaling to Guernica, and Maha, Lucci is not restricted to their level of power. He shows enough strength to fight with an Armament Enhanced Gear 5th Luffy. Gear 5th should naturally be stronger than Gear 3rd which harmed a Zoan Kaidou. Although possibly a joke scene, Atlas was able to withstand an attack from Base Luffy with no damage, whilst she was nearly killed by Hybrid Lucci’s Rokuogan. In scaling chain form it looks like this:
Lucci (Hybrid): < Rokuogan > > Atlas > Luffy (Base) (Yonko Commander Level +)
Lucci (Awakened): > Gear 3rd ~ Weakened Zoan Kaidou ~ Weakened Hybrid Kaidou ~ Yamato (Base + Advanced Haki) (Low Yonko Level)
In conclusion Lucci is easily more powerful than any Straw Hat other than Luffy, and far above any Yonko Commander (other than Marco) without Awakening.
Most Impressive Supernova in Rooftop fight. I feel like he did more than Luffy in the Rooftop since Luffy was out for moments after G4 and from RagnarakuYeah Zoro probably stomps considering he gave Kaidou a scar even before he got ACoC. Dude is nutty.
I think he was using ACoC unknowingly therehe gave Kaidou a scar even before he got ACoC
The attack had no Hao lightning so that doesn't seem to be the case.I think he was using ACoC unknowingly there
Perhaps, but the indication is that he just let off normal Conq during the attack.I think he was using ACoC unknowingly there
But Kaido reacted as if Zoro was using ACoC, so I think it's likely that he wasThe attack had no Hao lightning so that doesn't seem to be the case.
I'm sorry I legit can't care about him- I already got my beef with that character by now. Fighting kid on the streets it's on sightThem's fighting words.
I genuinely don't believe he's stronger than any 1st commander we've seen outside of Katakuri because power creep go brrrLucci’s not stronger than Full Power Zoro imo.
I mean, it's consistent now due to how insanely durable Seraphim have been shown to be.I still can't believe that King is tankier than Zoan Kaido lol.
AND LAW TOOI still can't belive that Kaido & BM can match BB's quake ability without any DF powers nor Advanced Haki.
Law is a beast.AND LAW TOO
THAT MF IS STRONG MAN
But unlike those 2, Law did use his DF to counter the BB's quakes, his awakened power at that.AND LAW TOO
THAT MF IS STRONG MAN
Injection Shot->Ancupture/Pressure PointsCounter Shock, Takt, Injection Shot
Vice Admirals are goofy fodder at this point lol.
When was it said Kaido's immune to electricity?..Isn't Kaidou resistant/immune to Electricity?
Though him dodging a lightning bolt from Lfufy could contradict that but that was probably an inconsistency.
I can't stand characters whose only power is to take AP and reflect it back. Boring and unoriginal AF.
THE **** YOU SAY ABOUT MY BOI?!Reminds me of a certain pink puffball whose main gimmick is using other people's powers against them
He got you goodTHE **** YOU SAY ABOUT MY BOI?!
TAKE IT BACK OR ELSE!Reminds me of a certain pink puffball whose main gimmick is using other people's powers against them
Dude, what did Killer ever do to you?
I'm arguing that it isn't a stomp, and that he wins. Why? For Fun.Dude, what did Killer ever do to you?