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One Piece Chapter 1071: "The Hero Deploys" (Official)
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Ok, so the part about Kaku panicking was a bit misleading, since it was before he and Zoro actually began fighting and was moreso out of shock that Zoro was there to block his attack.
Base Kaku's kick matched Base no-Haki Zoro (who both scales >= to his previous Scabbard-level key and downscales from King's 1-armed sword swing and King's punch).
So Base Kaku is Scabbard level. And so is Base Lucci.
NOICE.
Base Kaku's kick matched Base no-Haki Zoro (who both scales >= to his previous Scabbard-level key and downscales from King's 1-armed sword swing and King's punch).
So Base Kaku is Scabbard level. And so is Base Lucci.
NOICE.
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Would be easier to say he scaled to base X Drake since no haki nitoryu Zoro matched him.
Edit: I'm semi-dubious though about base Kaku's scaling considering his strongest rokushiki technique was seemingly stopped by Zoro with one sword.
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1-sword no-Haki Zoro blocked a punch from Base King (it was the sword in his mouth).
Also, no-Haki nitoryu Zoro matched a slightly weakened Killer (who despite being weakened shouldn't be that much weaker and should thus still be around Scabbard level), and no-Haki nitoryu was more or less keeping up with Denjiro (although both were not using 100%).
That was a rokushiki technique aimed at a "defenseless" ship.
When Kaku and Zoro actually fought, they were portrayed as equal, the same way G5 and Lucci clashed equally.
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He had haki on his sword there.
If you're implying he made his rokushiki technique weaker than it typically is then why did he use amane dachi in the first place which is literally the strongest rankyaku technique he has.
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He didn't activate haki until directly afterwards IIRC.
Why would he go all out when attacking a "measly" ship.
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Wrong.
Guess he wanted the job done right because he literally uses his strongest technique.
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I looked at the chapter again, you're right.
But still, Nitoryu Zoro without Haki still matched Denjiro and a weakened Killer.
Luffy used Gear 4 against a Number, Beast Pirate Fodder, and was gonna use it against Ulti, so I guess they're all High 6-A, right?
Also, I think the translations say it was Rokugan
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How are these comparable to what happened here? The number was one-shot, the ship destroyed and we use the ulti shit for scaling to say she is above everything but gear 4th.
Good for Kaku if he learned the rokuougan but it wasn't, he said amane dachi.
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I'm pretty certain the Sunny would have been all but destroyed had Kaku been using his full power.
And it was one attack.
Kaku still clashed with no-Haki Nitoryu Zoro, just like how Lucci scales to G5 for clashing with him.
Oh yeah, someone corrected the dude who said Rokugan, so you're right.
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He used his strongest rokushiki technique attempting to destroy the ship, pretty sure that was his intention.
His Strongest Rokushiki attack
He technically clashed with one sword. The major difference between the Lucci and Kaku encounters is that nothing like the amane dachi getting overpowered exists in the Lucci encounter, so their clash is without antifeats while this one does have one.
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When Base Zoro and Kaku were physically clashing, they were equal.
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And I'm saying I'm semi-dubious as there is a direct antifeat against that scaling and plus we didn't see the outcome of the clash like we did with the Lucci one.
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People block equal opponent's top attacks in fictional stories all the time.
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Doesn't really address my concerns with the scaling
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He tore through him with that attack even though he defended with a Ryuo barrier.
Same thing as above, he destroyed her face and took her out with it
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Zoro deflecting one attack does not mean he's far stronger than Kaku when we literally see them clashing evenly.
If you want we can wait until the next chapter in 2 weeks
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Based on the panel I've seen It doesn't look like he simply deflected it but rather destroyed it by striking it down through the middle. Regular Kaku being equal to someone who destroyed his strongest Rokushiki technique is contradictory, so yeah waiting for further clarification would be best.
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He's salty as hell LOL
Kaku matching one sword Zoro is nice, not very impressive but nice.
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Yeah this is one of those moments where we'll have to see more (either Amanedachi isn't Kaku's strongest attack anymore, or Zoro's toying with him). Also if we haven't already, we should rate post time skip Kaku's Buso as intermediate.
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We don't even know if or how they used Haki pre time skip iirc
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I'm talking about post time skip Kaku.
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Oh right, but that's with every member for now.
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Technically Zoro was using 2 swords during their fight
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He used one to clash with him and held one in the other arm.
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When did he show it again?
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It's not a hundred percent confirmed, but whenever he had the mask on a couple chapters ago, his nose had the same shading and lighting as Haki. While it could be part of the mask, I'm not sure since no other CP mask had the same type of shading and lighting. So it's not concrete.
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Why would he put Armament on his nose lol
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I've joked about it before, but maybe to complete the camouflage lol.
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It's weird lol.
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The shading and lighting also clashes with the rest of the mask, where as the other CP masks tend to not have clashing aesthetics (at least not as much of a contrast as this instance).
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It's not clear but yeah he may have.
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There's an interesting theory that the person helping Vegapunk may be Scopper Gaban, which explains why he's so confident he can mop up CP0 and the Marines for VP.
