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Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint Verse Creation: The Cosmology Part 1

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Digital_Franz

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INTRODUCTION

Hello everyone. I hope you are all doing well. This thread will be about the cosmology of Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint abbreviated ORV.

Before starting I would like to say thanks to @Lycenum_lycopersicum, @Pedonar, @YassX55 and many others for their contribution to the realization of this CRT. Also I would like to point out that this work is a real headache so before venturing out you should be mentally prepared and avoid toxic behaviors without any basis.


PROPOSALS
The verse is focused on R>F. Let's move on to what will be evaluated in this thread.

Final Wall is a wall that exists in the end of the world,[61] endlessly stretching[62][55] and surrounding the entire universe.[63] Its role is to record the world, which is a story taking place within the wall[3][4][5] and in truth is a daydream of the noble existence with Final Wall recording that dream.[5] Within Oldest Dream's dream everyone is nothing more but a character, even Kim Dokja who is the adult Oldest Dream dreamed into existence by this latter, giving to Dokja Fourth Wall since the rules of the world were thought up by him too.[64]

The nature of the Final Wall is different from that of the Universe. The slash that can split the world apart can't affect Final Wall, that seems to posses no nature of 'breaking' in the first place.[16][48] The world being only a story recorded on this wall, the events that have already occurred can be modified[3][48][65] It can also be used to alter reality.[66]

Final Wall allows certain people to “enter” when entry is permitted, its interior being a place where nothing exists, thus making this structure a void of nothingness. Traveling inside and trying to go beyond without having the keys just leads to complete annihilation of existence.[48][55] The keys needed to cross Final Wall are five "Walls" called the Final Wall fragments, amongst them the final fragment - the Fourth Wall - is a singular existences throughout whole universe and is a skill of Kim Dokja, structured in a story of his life and Oldest Dream resides beyond Final Wall.[67][68][45][8][2][69] Fourth Wall itself exists to solely protect Kim Dokja and is a divider between reality and fiction.[8][70]





So what comes down to is:

  • Final Wall is a 'Wall' that allows Oldest Dream to interact with his dream and ascend the characters of his dream to his level of reality. In addition, it is a void of nothingness preceding the entirety of reality. In doing so, Final Wall has a 1-A rating.
  • Snowfield is a part of Final Wall and is the world where all stories are created. Its existence is such that even Kim Dokja's fragment using 1-A powers cannot affect it or even realize its existence. Snowfield is therefore rated 1-A. Possibly higher?
  • Oldest Dream is a being who perceives his entire worldview as fiction. They can only interact with him if he ascends them to his level of reality. The Oldest Dream of Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint is beyond Final Wall. Fulfilling the requirements of R>F transcendence, Oldest Dream is rated 1-A.
  • Dokja fragments and Dokja himself can only use a tiny part of their "real selves" power, allowing them to see their worldviews as a daydream. So basically they can use 1-A powers and their real power is higher. So Oldest Dream's rating is a bit higher and might be affected by Snowfield's rating.
 
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while we are at it. i think we can mention the characters who would scale to 1-A if the thread gets accepted. It will be Kim Dokja(since he is Oldest Dream). This also can be entire KimCom as Oldest Dream made them 'real' to interact with him(non-1A characters getting help from 1-A) for a short period of time
 
while we are at it. i think we can mention the characters who would scale to 1-A if the thread gets accepted. It will be Kim Dokja(since he is Oldest Dream). This also can be entire KimCom as Oldest Dream made them 'real' to interact with him(non-1A characters getting help from 1-A) for a short period of time
Nah this will be for other threads when it will be necessary to create the profiles. There is no anti-feat for the R>F so the rest will be discussed in other threads with the reasons.
 
Yeah, looks fine to me. I assume the "Final Wall" is basically supposed to be the blank page of the novel itself, yes? Given the stuff about it dividing reality and fiction, and "recording" the Oldest Dream's imagination through text. If so, 1-A probably starts with it, yeah, and the Oldest Dream is on the same level.
 
Yeah, looks fine to me. I assume the "Final Wall" is basically supposed to be the blank page of the novel itself, yes? Given the stuff about it dividing reality and fiction, and "recording" the Oldest Dream's imagination through text. If so, 1-A probably starts with it, yeah, and the Oldest Dream is on the same level.
Yes.

Still browsing through the Novel since I missed a few things while doing the cosmology blog, Ultima I wanted to ask you a question. What would happen if Fourth Wall encompassed the very Duality of Reality and Fiction?
 
Would need to see the exact quote to know for sure.
There is a kind of myth that has passed around telling of the creation of the world. The context here is a bit particular and but here is in brief what it indicates. The Duality of Good and Evil was created and this refers to the Yin and the Yang, the very order of the world. There is the Wall that divides the Good and Evil of the world which actually refers to a Wall that encompasses the Duality of Good and Evil as it is said to be two in one. Fourth Wall has been said to divide the world in the sense of dividing Reality and Fiction and is of the same nature as the other Walls. Showing here that Fourth Wall encompasses in itself the Duality of Reality and Fiction.
 
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bump(Ultima come back please😔). also, given 1-A Final Wall, I guess Dokkaebi King can go to "Low 1-A with hax" since he is granted authority to utilize all of Final Wall's functions
 
bump(Ultima come back please😔).
It would be better not to bump until Ultima returns. Continuing to do so would not change anything.
also, given 1-A Final Wall, I guess Dokkaebi King can go to "Low 1-A with hax" since he is granted authority to utilize all of Final Wall's functions
Again this is not the thread to discuss who gets what. It doesn't even have a sandbox yet. Dokkaebi King would even get 1-A HAX.
 
I don't think this means much, truthfully. As said before, the "Wall' seems to be pretty much just the blank page on which the text of the novel is written, in which case, is obviously belongs to the "Reality" side of the dichotomy, as opposed to the "Fiction" side. Seems to be "between" them insofar as it is both in reality and also something that records and contains the fiction in itself (Since it's the paper of the book). 1-A is the most you're getting here, I think.
 
I don't think this means much, truthfully. As said before, the "Wall' seems to be pretty much just the blank page on which the text of the novel is written, in which case, is obviously belongs to the "Reality" side of the dichotomy, as opposed to the "Fiction" side. Seems to be "between" them insofar as it is both in reality and also something that records and contains the fiction in itself (Since it's the paper of the book). 1-A is the most you're getting here, I think.
overall, we can count your agreement to 1-A rating,right? so that i can start message wall other admins for 2 more approvals
 
I don't think this means much, truthfully. As said before, the "Wall' seems to be pretty much just the blank page on which the text of the novel is written, in which case, is obviously belongs to the "Reality" side of the dichotomy, as opposed to the "Fiction" side. Seems to be "between" them insofar as it is both in reality and also something that records and contains the fiction in itself (Since it's the paper of the book). 1-A is the most you're getting here, I think.
I understand what you mean but I have a problem with this. The thing is that by considering "Reality" as what exists beyond Final Wall, there couldn't be multiple people who don't exist in the novel script after the fusion between Reality and Fiction because Oldest Dream is the only being that exists in this "Reality". It would also mean that Reality and Fiction wouldn't exist as a Duality like Good and Evil, Yin and Yang, etc. and then it would contradict the function of Fourth Wall which is to decide what is "Reality" and what is "Fiction" within Final Wall.

Edit: I think you're wrong about one thing (I'm the one misleading you). It's not Final Wall that divides Reality and Fiction but Fourth Wall. It's pretty clear that Final Wall belongs to the "Reality" of Oldest Dream being like a paper on which the script of the world is written. Fourth Wall divides Reality and Fiction inside Final Wall just like the Wall of Good and Evil divides Good and Evil inside Final Wall.
 
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Yeah, this is "just" 1-A.
Hmm maybe. Ultima in answering my question considered Final Wall while I was talking about Fourth Wall. I don't think the Duality thing is considered unimportant, but I'll wait for Ultima's answer. You are counted as Agreed with 1-A.
 
Edit: I think you're wrong about one thing (I'm the one misleading you). It's not Final Wall that divides Reality and Fiction but Fourth Wall. It's pretty clear that Final Wall belongs to the "Reality" of Oldest Dream being like a paper on which the script of the world is written. Fourth Wall divides Reality and Fiction inside Final Wall just like the Wall of Good and Evil divides Good and Evil inside Final Wall.
Oh, I thought that for scaling purposes the two were just interchangeable, since you mentioned the Fourth Wall has "the same nature as the other walls." My bad.

Regardless: Yeah, I don't see anything above 1-A here, regardless. The whole division between reality and fiction mediated by the fourth wall seems pretty vague, and the fact it's seemingly inferior to the already established R>F difference of the verse doesn't help much, either.
 
Oh, I thought that for scaling purposes the two were just interchangeable, since you mentioned the Fourth Wall has "the same nature as the other walls." My bad.

Regardless: Yeah, I don't see anything above 1-A here, regardless. The whole division between reality and fiction mediated by the fourth wall seems pretty vague, and the fact it's seemingly inferior to the already established R>F difference of the verse doesn't help much, either.
so,since we have 3 approvals, will you wait for further response or is this thread concluded?
 
From what I gather, profiles are yet to be done, yes? If the other stuff for the verse is going to happen in other threads, then this one might as well close, yeah.
 
From what I gather, profiles are yet to be done, yes? If the other stuff for the verse is going to happen in other threads, then this one might as well close, yeah.
yes. this one is just one half taken from our cosmo blog, the other half has another ongoing thread that concerns L2C-H1C tiers, although it's been empty for almost 2 months already. once that is concluded we will put new crt for this profile and we would have the verse page added to wiki too upon conclusion
 
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