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Nyx (Marvel Comics) addition to the Wiki

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I'm not sure if this topic should be talked here, but here we go! (I put this here because I would like some help to analyze the feats and stuff)

Since the series Avengers: No Road Home is over, I thought about adding the main villain of the series to the wiki. Here the information that I have compiled about it.
I hope your help in determining what is right or wrong in what I have collected, I am new to this and possibly I was wrong when interpreting certain feats of Nyx.

Here how more or less I would put the profile. Except for the orders of the powers and links, I'm not sure how to put them correctly. I still don't have a picture for the profile.





"

How can you stop me? How can you do anything but watch? I am mankind's first darkness. I am midnight and moonrise. I am a primal being, greater than gods... What are you?

"

~ Nyx,Goddes of Night



Summary
Nyx is the goddess of night of the greek pantheon. She was the main villain of the Avengers: No Road Home series, where, after being freed from her imprisonment by Zeus, she sought revenge against the Olympians to later bring the night to all reality.

Powers and Stats
Tier: At least 2-C

Name: Name: Nyx, Goddess of Night, Mother of Night, Queen of Night

Origin:' Marvel Comics

Gender: Female

Age: As old as the universe or even older (she was born during the darkness that existed before the light) https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-4?id=151035#4

Classification: Goddess, Primal Being

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Large Size (type 0 https://2.bp.blogspot.com/kJutvjF4I...b8bozdWdxw9fFn8aEDE1aKIfiEEqScEBn7_OSgA=s1600), possibly Abstract Existence (type 2) Intangibility (https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-2?id=150311#13), Status Effect Inducement (Can turn people blind https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-1?id=149790#33 https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No--Home/Issue-2?id=150311#14) Could have children without procreate (https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-4?id=151035#6), Forcefield Creation ( https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-5?id=151525#4). Enhanced Senses (Could feel the other Night Shards https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-7?id=152568#17 and could feel Hypnos death when he was in Nightmare Realm [https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-5?id=151525#19 https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-5?id=151525#18 [https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-5?id=151525#19 https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-5?id=151525#19) Matter Manipulation or transmutation (Killed Dolos and Apate turning them into dust. Or dedisintegrating them. I'm not sure https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-5?id=151525#20 https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-7?id=152568#6) Telepathy (Talked with Hypnos when he was in Nightmare Realm. https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-5?id=151525#17) Immortality (type 1, and 3. Possibly 8. She exists while the night exist) Summoning Attack Reflection (https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-7?id=152568#7) Non-Physical Interaction (Can touch energy as it was solid. https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-7?id=152568#18) Cappable of creating minions with her dark manipulation (https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-7?id=152568#18), Energy Manipulation (Shoot a ray during his fight with Hulk. This could be a dark ray, but I'm not sure.https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-8?id=152957#13) Power Nullification (it only works against those which powers are dark/night related. She took out night from the Hulk. https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-8?id=152957#18). Regenerationn (possibly low-Godly. When she was burned by the fire / light of creation / imagination, she said she was defeated, but not killed. It is implied that she can return. She said that she will always be. https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-10?id=153748#16 https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-10?id=153748#17 ) Teleportation (could teleport to Long Island without help of Voyager when having all her power back https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-9?id=153452#16)

Attack Potency: At least Low Multiverse level (Even weakened could kill Zeus https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-2?id=150311#9 Could create and endless night in all the universe, even inside of the stars. https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-1?id=149790#21, https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-8?id=152957#23) possibly far higher (She's a primal being and superior to the gods https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-10?id=153748#8 she said that she's the other side of the bright story that Marvel is https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-10?id=153748#17. I know that this last one could be interpreted in another way, so you tell me.)

Speed: Massively FTL+ (Scaling from Zeus) possibly Nigh-Omnipresent (she is/has the night that yet may be, the night that was, the night that is and because of this exist where there's night. First scan it's about the nights, and in the last one she says she's the night. https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-4?id=151035#16 https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-10?id=153748#8)

Lifting Strength: Unknown. Possibly Class Y (scaling from Zeus. She was holding Zeus by the neck and he couldn't shake her off. https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-2?id=150311#9)

Striking Strength: Low Multiversal

Durability: Low Multiverse level (Tanked Zeus lightings https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-2?id=150311#9. Tanked attacks from Hulk with a portion of her powers https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-6?id=152212#19 https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-8?id=152957#12)

Stamina: Godlike (scaling from Zeus)

Range: Multiversal+ (via scaling from Zeus)

Standard Equipment: The moon shield.

Intelligence: Possibly high. (She knows about the House of Ideas. Accordlingly, she has a great understanding about the functioning of the whole multiverse)


Weaknesses: Light. Despite being as old as the universe, or even older, she doesn't possess any fighting experience because she didn't like to fight before killing Zeus (https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-7?id=152568#12). Overconfident.


Notable techniques/attacks


Dark tentacles (https://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-No-Road-Home/Issue-8?id=152957#12)
 
I suppose that an "At least 2-C" rating seems fine, but we should keep the profile matter of fact, without speculation.

Here are some members that you can ask to comment here:

Matthew Schroeder, Sandman31, Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot, Ryukama, Reppuzan, Shivansh Garg, KLOL506, Zensum, TheC2, Crimson Azoth, Eficiente, Sera EX, Kepekley23, Huesito88, Yobo Blue, PrinceOfTheMorning.
 
Nyx 2-C? She has exploits totally from levels 1-A, she struggled against all of Marvel's own stories, and her true form is only found in the TOAA's plan.

Now TOAA should also be taken from 1-A to At least 2-C?
 
The way I understood, she was going to use the power of the house to rewrite the Marvel multiverse.

On her own she is likely too contradictory. On the one hand she was originally defeated by Zeus when at full power. Then she killed him and the other Olympians when severely weakened, then she blacked out all the stars in the universe, which somehow registered immediately despite that it should take at least thousands of years for the light to travel the distance, then she was kicked around by the Hulk before being restored to full power, and was inconvenienced by other regular superheroes and even Conan, and then she entered the "House of Ideas"/The seat of power for TOAA to use its power to enforce her vision on the multiverse.

None of this is remotely coherent storytelling.
 
Thank you for the help, people! Right now I'll ask to more members to comment here!

And, yes, it's true, Nyx could be extremely far higher than 2-C, she said that she's the other side of the bright story that Marvel is, but, to me, it seems better to keep the "At least 2-C" to avoid mistakes.

About the House being unable to destroy Nyx, I don't know, I think it's better to think that the House didn't want to, because Nyx is part of the balance. Also, I consider that she could create her new dark multiverse just because she was in the House, not exactly by herself. But, of course, I'm not really sure about this, Nyx being multiversal could be valid if some things are interpreted in some ways, too. That's why I ask for some help to analyze the character.

Finally, what Antvasima says is true, especially the part about Zeus. The only way I can justify her defeat to Zeus, even when she was able to defeat him when weakened, is that she didn't like to fight back at the moment, and, because of this, she had an extremely passive attitude when Olympians fought her and her children. Hulk being able to fight her was because he has a part of her powers, I think.
 
I also think that scaling her from Zeus is safest, since they have both defeated each other.
 
Exactly. And put "possibly higher". And the justification of possibly being higher is what I wrote "she's a primal being and greater than gods".
 
2-C Nyx looks good.

Ant, fiction doesn't apply physics the same way in the real world. While I don't think marvel ha s the most coherent story, being incoherent because some light moved too fast is more nonsensical than Marvel's actual story telling.
 
No make sense she scale with Zeus, Nyx is stronger than Zeus. Zeus(Myth) is much stronger than regular Zeus. And in No Road Home, the Myth Gods are the "Light Story" ,as the Vision was in this moment. Gods was amped for myth power and stories . Olympians Gods are abstract part of DreamTime or another structure above. Nyx fight with all Olympians gods when all were amped for myth and the story power.

Hulk can fight with Nyx, only when has amped by Night Power of Nyx. 1/3 of your Full Power Hulk and Hercules can't defeat Nyx

Nyx exist before of existence itself. As primordial darkness.

And, Olympians God in their abstract form have mention about be a concept of all planes and worlds, as Ares.
 
Shivansh Garg said:
"then she blacked out all the stars in the universe, which somehow registered immediately despite that it should take at least thousands of years for the light to travel the distance"
That's a farcical argument, otherwise every FTL character in fiction would be 'incoherent'
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Also, if she can erase stars, why not some light?
 
@Yobo & Shivansh

The light change registering far too quickly was not remotely my main point, just a note. I was annoyed at the completely incoherent power scaling in the story.
 
@Driger

We can only scale the Olympian gods from their actual feats and scaling within Marvel Comics, not bloat them up to 1-A true Platonic ideas. Sorry, but a what you are suggesting is completely unreasonable.

Anyway, you are likely correct about the Hulk, but from what I remember, the Avengers could inconvenience Nyx even without her own power boosting them, and simply shutting down all stars in the universe via supernatural means is nowhere near even 3-A on its own.
 
You have a good point, Driger-God. I'll take it into consideration. If I'm understanding well your point, are you saying that, when Zeus and company fought against Nyx, they were empowered by more or less the same light that defeated Nyx at the end of the series, and because of this they could defeat her? But anyway, let see what other people have to say. I already asked other members to comment here, by the way. Also, Alonik, what do you tried to mean when you said "and her true form is only found in the TOAA's plan"?

After we finish discussing her tier, could we talk about her powers, intelligence and stuff?

Thanks to anyone who have commented here.
 
I never said that gods are 1-A, the Gods exist in all planes of existence, not beyond or anything in this line. I showed a scan where Ares is war in all planes, and in all future, and Ares can exist beyond timeline and change the timeline in combat with Nate
But Olympians gods have feats, at least, the God Tier as Atlas, Cronos, Zeus, Poseidon and Hades, and the Olympus don't is the first pantheon fully abstract, you know the Aboriginal Gods? A pantheon that exist within DreamTime, the SpaceAbstract.
The Aboriginal Gods live in Alchera , a world abstract in collective unconsciusness of all being in the universe, Altjira(skyfather) create a world within DreamTime DreamTime is a abstract world, in DreamTime Hercules defeat Skrull DreamTime Gods for defeat all race because the gods have a connection metaphysical with your race.

@DaniellH15
Yes, Nyx is a another part of the Light, Nyx exist in a balance of Light-Darkness. Even the Light of every story in House of Idea can't kill Nyx.
 
The Olympians of the original mythology are conceptual entities, yes, but in Marvel they have almost strictly been treated as very powerful immortal superhumans. Blowing up a few hyperbole statements out of context doesn't change that.
 
It has several proofs above that show the Olympians as conceptual entities, even the vision after receiving enough judgment to have the history of Marvel Comics drawn by his hand, stated that the Gods are more than physical bodies, and they are potent myths woven into Marvel collective reality.

Deuses mytho


Anyway there's no hyperbole here, we have something totally concrete.
 
Myths are not the same as high level cosmic/conceptual entities. Even the Avengers have been able to handily beat the Olympians in the past, and that was back in the days when logic and powerscaling actually had any meaning in Marvel Comics.
 
Anyway, again, here are some members that you can ask to comment here:

Matthew Schroeder, Sandman31, Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot, Ryukama, Reppuzan, KLOL506, Zensum, TheC2, Crimson Azoth, Eficiente, Sera EX, Kepekley23, Huesito88, Yobo Blue, PrinceOfTheMorning.
 
Avengers can fight with the physical form of gods, not theur true form.


Olympians gods are limited in the Lower plane of Reality,and they don't use their true forms to not kill everyone. Gods existe far from earthly plane of reality in another plane of existence, beyond the fabric of infinity itself in mortal plane gods have his power corroded, and exist a barrier that separates myth from reality, the gods exist in a space beyond the space


Gods are limited in the regular plane of existence, we have Ouranos(Uranus) as the primordial skys or the Axis Mundi, and Cronos killed Uranos, even Uranos is a abstract being (The heavens) and the heavens have many forms, Yggdrasil itself is a form of the Axis Mundi, Cronos can kill Uranos, and Hercules have a mention about Cronos as father of time himself Zeus is part of Cosmic Order with the others Abstract Beings.


Since a long time ago there are many mentions about the gods existing in a higher plane of existence. What you called of hyperbole, I call of part of the history of Marvel Comics that for no reason is simply not mentioned by most people and that paradoxically is not allowed to be mentioned precisely because people say it is contradictory simply because they have not noticed something that has always existed and is always referenced.

Now I will talk about another character and the place of God Myth in Marvel Comics:


Surtur have mentions about be a natural force of limitless power, Odin have mention of be the manifestation of "order"(concept) in existence Thor have mention about his divinity transcends the dimensions , Hela is the death in all time and space. Hugin and Munin are the memory and thought of all worlds Atum/Demongorge is a god beyond time and space Set is a multi dimensional being, and Poseidon can hurt Set.


Asgard: Beyond man's measure of time and space, beyond his ability to reach and comprehend, lies a place of everlasting wonder. Asgard the realm eternal.


Olympus: Forget thee the narrow limits of time... The craming boundaries of what thou dost call space! I shall show thee grandeur beyond naming... glory without end! I shall show thee... Olympus! - We must bend time and space, to gaze on the golden halls of the timeless realm


Sorry, I can't understand you. Your point no make sense.
 
So what you're suggesting is Marvel gods work in same way as DC's gods? (Interacting with mortals through avatars) Because that's new information
 
I have checked through several of your scans and find no explicit proof of higher infinities than the "2-C" ranking that we currently assign to Zeus. Even that is generous, as he is usually not portrayed at anywhere near that scale, and is certainly not a multiverse-spanning singularity.

It also seems to be speculation to state that the true forms of the gods are far more powerful than what they manifest as.
 
Shivansh Garg
Yes ,Ares is a war in all planes and future , but his body only canalisy this power , and he can control the war of world.
Current Ares is mortal a long time , and Ares lost great part of his power .
Great part of the gods "lost" or no use your full power on Earth.
You remeber of Fear Itself? A hammer talking about the abstract world outside the reality is the Gods World,Greithoth is talking about this

The hammers can acess even the Underspace of Pym (A place in another level of existence)

Gods have great importance in Marvel Universe, as part that created the universe/multiverse. In some places of Gods, as Celtic Realm, all time and space exist within this realm , in another gods realms, as the Continent of Krauncha exist a place that separete the directional space of non directional space.
You remeber that in Chaos War, Amadeus Cho said that Mikaboshi absorbed the multiverse after that he destroy the gods realms.


A long time Gaea exist as source of all creation in Marvel Universe (With Demiurge)
The Gods protect the source of creation itself.

We have mentions about: Gods existence as abstract or higher level of existence, realms in higher level of time and space, or encompassing all time and space, mentions of gods as natural force of limitless power(Surtur, Odin, the OdinForce), even pantheons fully into abstract space or part of Cosmic Order.
I can't see the Marvel Gods only as a "physical body powerful".
 
Here are some members that you should ask to comment here. I don't have enough time to properly deal with this:

Matthew Schroeder, Sandman31, Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot, Ryukama, Reppuzan, KLOL506, Zensum, TheC2, Crimson Azoth, Eficiente, Sera EX, Kepekley23, Qawsedf234, Huesito88, Yobo Blue, PrinceOfTheMorning.
 
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