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Norm vs Natsu

He's 3.6 petatons. Natsu is a bit above baseline 6-A which is 760 teratons, so let's say he's 1 petaton. If we agree on that, then Norm is 3.6 times stronger than Natsu.

He sucks projectiles into his arm and shoots them back out.
 
So I see Norm winning with Low-Diff

For he has a range vastly larger than Natsu's, and on top of it he usually prefers melee and uses his ranged attacks to close the range, which will not be possible here because of the range Norm abuses and in this Natsu has no way to get stronger because of Norm's disintegrating rays thinking it's magic and ends up turning to dust while trying to absorb the rays and Natsu's heat would not be useful in this fight as Norm prefers to fight from far and abuse of his range.
 
Disintegration >>>>> Heat and Fire

Natsu will try to eat Norm's disintegration rays and will eventually turn to dust and also I do not see Natsu who prefers CQC winning from someone who abuses of his planetary range and who is able to disintegrate it
 
Except they start 4km away. Natsu's not stupid enough to run for four kilometers. He also doesn't try to eat his opponent's attacks mid air. His flames will power null the disintegration rays and then power null Norm.
 
Norm has Limitless stamina and can abuse the AP advantage and range for as long as he wants, while Natsu will tire over time and eventually realizing that Norm will not use the flamethrowers or missiles, he will try to eat the disintegrating rays and will end up dying. Natsu Power Nullification is inconsistent because it has never shown if it works with someone stronger than Natsu only turned out to affect opponents weaker than Natsu and it is not passive or that it can be activated when Natsu wants, it only works when Natsu is extremely angry or at the peak of his emotions, which he will not be able to do here, since he will be turned into dust before activating the PN.
 
His flames which null magic are going to null a laser from a robot AKA a machine AKA technology AKA not magic? Pretty sure verse equalization doesn't work like that.
 
He can't abuse the advantage, his projectiles all get nulled. Again, Natsu's never tried to eat an offensive attack mid air. Power Null isn't inconsistent, he's used it in a weaker form he can use it here.
 
>He can't abuse the advantage, his projectiles all get nulled.

Yes, he can, is all he does on this key and how will Natsu nullify the surprise rocket attacks? His Fire Absorption is not passive and Norm can catch Natsu by surprise and Natsu's PN has never been shown to affect people stronger than him, only if it is shown to affect the weaker ones, or else he could have beaten the Future Rogue with more ease and have PN his DS powers, but did not and on top Norm has limitless stamina and will be able to abuse his planetary range all day long

>Again, Natsu's never tried to eat an offensive attack mid air.

And does that change the fact that Natsu will still try to eat Norm's disintegrating rays? It has no difference for Natsu in eating attacks in air or in the earth, literally has no difference at all.

>Power Null isn't inconsistent, he's used it in a weaker form he can use it here.

PN of Natsu in whole FT, has only been shown to affect weaker opponents or the same level of power with him, as: Sting, Zero and FH Zeref and another example that is the most important, is the Seven Dragon Slayers against Human Acnologia SBT, had a moment where Savage Dragon Fire Natsu instead of burning the explosion of Human Acnologia SBT he tanked this, which indicates even more that Natsu even being rage to increase the power of his PN, can not affect opponents stronger than him, on top of that when it happened Natsu's emotions were in his peak and it had been the same form that burned Time and Death magic of FH Zeref.
 
1. His PN worked on Zero, Zeref, and Sting who at the time were comparable to them. Hax doesn't work that way. That's like saying that since Naruto is physically stronger than DIO, DIO's time stop won't work on him.

2. Yes it does. There's a difference between being able to pick a bat off the ground and catching a bat mid swing. If he's never done the second in character, he won't do it here.

3. I addressed this in 1.
 
How does he have the stamina advantage if he has the stamina of a squirrel? If the squirrel stops moving then he stops moving and gets destroyed.

Range means nothing when all your projectiles get power nulled.
 
> Look at Norm's profile

> The squirrell only stops running when lured by food

> Look at Natsu's stamina

> Can eventually run out of magic more easily by abusing his magic powers

Sure he has it.

I'm pretty sure that is a NLF saying Natsu can PN the DR.
 
That's not what it says.

(He is powered by a squirrel running on a wheel, though said squirrel has only ever stopped running when lured out by food)

The squirrel just got lured out by the food before it got tired enough to stop.

Natsu can easily outlast a normal squirrel


He's not power nulling the DR (if DR stands for durability). He's power nulling the projectiles Norm shoots at him.
 
1 - It does not change the fact that it only turned out to affect against weaker opponents and he did not do it against Human Acnologia SBT explosion while it was in Savage Dragon Fire and it's same form had nullified the magic of Zeref's Time and Death. Yes, there are versions where the force direction can give resistance to hax (as in DBS) and others do not. No, what you're trying to bring is totally different, I was using examples from within FT and you came up with examples of different works like Naruto and JoJo? WTF... ... ... ...

2 - If this is the case Norm, he also abuses his range even on the ground and so Natsu will try to eat his disintegrating rays when he realizes that he is fading
 
Literally in this case the squirrel only stops running when it is attracted to food, which in this case Natsu has nothing to offer the squirrel and on top is not aware that this is the source of energy Norm
 
1. It's not different, you're saying that the power null doesn't work on Norm because Norm is physically stronger.

2. Why do you keep ignoring the part where Natsu does not eat offensive attacks aimed at him? He didn't try eating Sting's rays mid air, he never tried eating one of Zeref's death beams, he didn't take a bite out of Gray ice, He never tried eating one of Jellal's astral streams. I could literally do so many more examples of this, you are arguing something that Natsu does not ever do.
 
DR=Disintegration Ray.

Norm can spam and abuse range (in-character) with a pretty good AP advantage. One mistake and Natsu'll get much more damage than he can do. He doesn't abuse range and even if he try it Norm can reflect the attack (worthless since Natsu is pretty much invulnerable against his own flames like it was stated in Natsu vs Meliodas). But still Natsu is a H2H fighter so he must try to gets close and Norm can easily lands some good attacks before that.

As Enryu said PN is inconsistent and if he can't do it to stronger people he can't do it to Norm. It's not magic and far stroger than him.
 
Range doesn't work fra. I'm tired of this "It's not magic so it doesn't apply" logic. In FT the magic is the same thing as the actual thing. Natsu would not burn his tongue on a campfire because it's not magical. Natsu's power nullification has never failed because the person was stronger than him. I'd ask for scans of it, but I know for a fact that's never happened so I don't even know where that argument is coming from.
 
Scans>>>>everything else.

I still think it's NLF saying Natsu can eat or powernull the DR.
 
The burden of proof is on you. You are the one saying that Natsu's power null does not work on people stronger than him. You have to provide scans to support your argument.

That's not what NLF is. See my Dio's Time stop vs Naruto analogy on why physical power does not let you be immune to hax. If you're saying that he can't do it because it disintegrates, then Natsu was able to power null existence erasure which is literally just a better version of disintegration in every way.
 
1 - Not in this case you should have used examples in FT rather than using other versions that have nothing to do with each other

And this still does not change the fact that Natsu can not PN stronger opponents than he, as was shown during against the Human Acno SBT that Natsu was again in Savage Dragon Fire and instead of burning the Acno explosion he tanked this , which does not make sense, since this was the same Natsu that PN the Time and Death magic of FH Zeref and moreover Natsu at this time was with his emotions in his peak and knows why Natsu SDF failed to PN the explosion of Human Acno SBT? It is because this Acno is stronger than SDF Natsu

Planetary range + AOE Giant that Natsu has no chance to escape and will be disintegrated + someone with Limitless stamina >>>>>>>> Someone who prefers CQC + Inconsistent PN

By the way, did Natsu already PN something with AOE as big as Norm's DR? Cause I do not see him getting away from it
 
I'm going by what Enryu said. Saying that I got no proof while you don't provide proof doesn't give you the point.

Pretty sure you can't compare EE to Disintegration but meh.
 
1. It does. You said physical power is what lets Norm ignore Natsu's hax. I gave an example of why that's not how hax vs ap works. Except Natsu was extremely weakened and in base. Natsu literally oneshot Acno in SDF, there's no way Acno is stronger lol.

>implying the squirrel has limitless stamina and that Norm would destroy the Earth

It's literally a normal squirrel. Isn't Norm not evil/is smart? He knows that destroying the planet would get rid of his only home right?
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
It's literally a normal squirrel. Isn't Norm not evil/is smart? He knows that destroying the planet would get rid of his only home right?
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it doesn't care in a match what would have done in the series.

Still he tanked instead of powernulled it. The PN is inconsistent on when it's used so it can't be a winning reason in the match.
 
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