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Non-Physical Interaction in Bleach and Intangibilities for Souls

Never should have been there in the first place but yeah. On the topic of verse equalization, if magic/chakra/ki are treated as Reiryoku, can those characters see the spirits then?
 
@AnonymousBlank, I don't really know it should on the equalized verse properties if it allows seeing invisible beings.

In bleach, everyone has Reiryoku, but only those with above average to high Reiryoku can see spirits.
 
Due to Verse Equalization, yes they would be able to see them as thats how Bleach's Reitsu and Reiryoku are treated here.

Also, for Invisibility, it should be noted that its only useful against those with low-level spiritual senses. Verse Equalization ignores this anyway but we're an indexing site first and foremost.
 
I mean

You've still gotta have some sort of spiritual powers or whatever for verse equalization to kick in

It doesn't just give everyone Reiryoku
 
Thats not how I remember it as at least.

Im very certain we treat every single character here period as having Reiryoku in vs matches, just like they'll have chakra, Haki, KI, Aura, etc. to make the battles possible in the 1st place.
 
No it just equalizes similar mechanics

So stuff like Ki=Chi=A connection to the Warp or whatever

But it doesn't give people without that sort of thing those powers.
 
Except Reiryoku isn't suddenly just a separate ability you obtain. Literally everyone in Bleach, including everyday people, have it. Just at different levels. Equalizing Bleach with every other verse would mean everyone else here has it as well, there's no reason at all why they wouldnt or shouldn't.

And again, the verse equalization makes it that way so that it's even possible for a vs match to be, well possible, at all. Otherwise every single Bleach Character would be invisible to non-spiritually talented characters here who are in their tiers and it would be impossible to have a vs match at all.

At the very least, it drastically limits what characters Bleach can go up against.
 
Doesn't mean that people with no spiritual presence, say 40K blanks, would have any decent amount.

Cool. JJBA has stuff like this as well where stands are invisible and not able to be directly affected by a bunch of opponents, and yet they can still have matches. There's also ways around invis.

That's not an issue
 
Outside verse equalization they wouldnt. With it, they would, because Bleach is equalized with all other verses here.

IDK anything about Jojo or how "stands" are treated here so can't comment on that but Jojo =/= Bleach. 2 different verses, different mechanics, etc. Not a fair comparison.
 
Not to mention Reiryoku is tied together with Reiatsu and is emitted in the form of it whenever Reiatsu in Bleach is used.

Reiatsu = all other energy sources here.

So if for instance, in verse equalization, you release KI. Your releasing Reiryoku in that form.
 
Blanks are specifically lacking in spirituality. Everyone's got a soul in the warp but them, they're voids instead.

It is though, as what you're arguing with the verse equalization is the same here. There's no reason to grant notable levels of bleach magic to people who are spiritually defunct or not notable.
 
This sounds like a complaint,verse equalization doesn't give people powers they don't have and it merely allows interaction between the two.So no verse equalization doesn't allow you to see invisible people,you might as well say the opponent can reiatsu crush too lol.

Also please don't derail this since this is a CRT not a discssuion for the mechanics of verse equalization pertaining to Bleach against other verses.
 
Lacking in it =/= not having it at all though.

Maybe with vs equalization but definitely not without it. Jojo's stands (whatever they are), are not the same as Bleach's mechanics of Reiatsu/Reiryoku normally. Only with our vs equalization could you probably argue that and even then, what works for Jojo to be done in matches doesn't mean it can apply to Bleach. There would be a difference.

@Sigurd

Exactly what you just said. How can there be an interaction with Bleach chracters in battle if characters can't see, touch or sense them? There can't, so verse equalization makes it possible.
 
Blanks explicitly have no warp presence and "higher level Blanks" have a negative amount of warp presence. That's where the insane bullshit of a Culexus Assassi comes from. Clearly someone like that isn't going to be assigned spiritual powers.

Humans who technically have it, according to you, clearly don't have enough for it to be actually relevant. This would be the same for other non spiritually attuned dudes.

With verse equalization tons of matches still end up like that, because equalization doesn't mean everyone has the ability most of a verse has. Similar mechanics are the same, not that a mechanic is bestowed to everybody.

Stomps exist

At this point, we should make a thread about verse equalization in general if this is to continue, as it is derailing as Sigurd said. I'll make it in a bit, unless you want to.
 
Maybe, but the problem is you can't suddenly define the use of other spiritual energies from other verses as "not relevant" just because its used differently than how it is in Bleach. For example, DB character's manipulation of KI. KI is the spiritual energy of DB. Even if its not used like how Bleach characters use their universe's energy source to sense spiritual beings, it doesnt mean DB isn't spiritually talented themselves.

We're comparing average everyday people to fighters from universes who do manipulate spirit energy, just for other uses. It's not a fair comparison.

Of course but if its something that literally everyone and their mother have, and that whole universe in considered the same as others, that same universal principle applies. Saying otherwise would be cherry picking, this isn't some special ability only select few have. Everyone has it.

>Stomps

Stomps are not the same thing as a match being impossible. A stomp can still be a match that can actually happen in the 1st place.

Your welcome to make that thread, but im still vehemently against not applying such a generally wide universal principle to literally everyone else.
 
The mysterious man said:
MachTwo you need to stop adding invisibility to Quincy it is only for soul
Click to expand...
Technically it's okay because the Quincy we seen in the war were already souls,or else they wouldn't be able to function in Soul Society.
 
Isn't Fullbringers like Tsukisihma and Ginjo already being killed by Byakuya and Ichigo?
 
@Sigurd Snake in The Eye, nice, the wording is better!
 
Then while you're adding this to everyone you could also add the soul and matter to shinigami and Reiatsu hax and longevity it all agreed upon it but the one who was going to add it is blocked
 
So I will not touch the shinigami until this has been approved

So I (or someone else) can add it at once.
 
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