No Limit Fallacy vs No Limit Fallacy

[Axl233]

jumping on the spam fest.

Medaka vs The-Yukari-Above-All

-speed equalised

-both at they strongest

-Hero is restricted

-memes are allowed

go.



hey,thats my fan give it back.


try take it from me i dare you.

 

[Eganergo]

Yukari FRB.

 

[Shadow_Player1]

Medaka FRA

 

[Schnee_One]

Yukari

S E A L S

In all seriousness not sure how Medaka is going to go against someone who had a fair fight with Ahzek Ahriman....

 

[Dust_Collector]

Ganondorf comes in and stomps both of them.

 

[Dziga]

Yukari manipulates the boundaries between fiction and non-fiction and manipulates the votes to 7-0 in her favor, winning automatically.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Didn't Medaka win last time this was done?

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

>memes are allowed

You've doomed this thread.

I don't see how. With The Hero resitrcted + Existence Erasure + Low-Godly Regen I think Yukari takes this.

 

[ALRF]

Not up to date with Touhou but isn't Yukari one of those "I like to joke more than fight seriously" type of characters? It's probably that she won't be using something like Existance Erasure anytime soon.

Of course, Gaps are still a thing

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Yeah and Medaka's just gonna stand there and wait for Yukari to strike first.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Idk much about the other girl, someone enlighten me pls.

 

[Eganergo]

^ Which other girl?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

^ Which other girl?

Im known for being a Medaka main, so ofc i mean Yukari.

 

[Eganergo]

Well basically she can control boundary, resistance to time manip, etc. Just check her profile.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Didn't Medaka win against her already in a previous thread?

also Medaka just copy everything or All Fictions/AFBM's her instantly.

Imma say Medaka.

PS: What does FRA stand for?

 

[Eganergo]

FRA: For Reasons Above.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

FRA: For Reasons Above.

Oh ok then Medaka.

And again this has been done before while restricting win via The End and Medaka won.

 

[Axl233]

Bump

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Srsly shouldn't someone close this? It's been done before and Medaka was heavily nerfed (not allowed to start with AF, can't use The End, and she has no info on yukari but yukari does), still won doe.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/459523

Maybe add the results this time doe.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yukari got much stronger since then and that's why the old results were removed.

Anyway, Yukari seals

 

[Walking_Strawman]

So... alright I'll bite. What stops Medaka from going Time Erasure Blitz to Book Maker combo? Seems like Medaka just time blitzes and seals

and before anyone asks, yes, blitzing and spamming her abilities is in character if she percieves the enemy as enough of a threat

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Yukari got much stronger since then and that's why the old results were removed.
Anyway, Yukari seals

Meda stomps, u can't beat Medaka without having resistance to causality, All Fiction is just too broken of a hax to try and beat otherwise, and again AF + BM is also an insta win condition.

 

[Schnee_One]

<Can't beat without resisting causality.

None of her losses are characters who resist

 

[Firephoenixearl]

<Can't beat without resisting causality.
None of her losses are characters who resist

Cus her loses were always her getting haxed before she could do anything. Nihilus mind **** her before she activates AF, Jill again activates before AF, while Scp-1440 had resistance. Those are special cases since u don't need to resist what won't happen, but overall All Ficion will 1 shot unless resistance is there.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Then someone with precog would like seal her before she can do anything then.

 

[ALRF]

Btw, is it in character for Medaka to spam all of her hax at once?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Then someone with precog would like seal her before she can do anything then.

Not rly. That's not happening with speed equal.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Btw, is it in character for Medaka to spam all of her hax at once?

No, Medaka would have to feel really threatened.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

No, Medaka wouldhave to feel really threatened.

Well that's the worst part about this. It's arguable whether Medaka does that in SBA, cus Medaka not using her hax comes from the fact that she wants to reform her opponent, not defeat or kill them, so it's really arguable whether "wanting to kill" Medaka opens up with hax or not.

 

[ALRF]

So...isn't most of arguments reliant on "Medaka goes hax gg" null? If she doesn't use them unless threatened, she definitely wouldn't instantly hax her opponent.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I wanna redo Medaka vs Lavos now

 

[Firephoenixearl]

So...isn't most of arguments reliant on "Medaka goes hax gg" null? If she doesn't use them unless threatened, she definitely wouldn't instantly hax her opponent.

As i said it's unknown how Medaka would open up if she wanted to kill the enemy. She doesn't want to kill the enemy in character, she always tries to reform her opponent (make him/her become good), SBA negates that doe, no one knows what she would do if she were serious about killing.

 

[ALRF]

>SBA negates that doe, no one knows what she would do if she were serious about killing.

SBA doesn't negate that. Else we will be having Reinhard Heydrich scoring up wins via 'GG throws his spear'.

While SBA does make her willing to kill, She's still acting based on her personality. That is, according to what you and Apies said, she definitely won't be going hax from the get go.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

The thing is how she opens up is based on "i don't kill". SBA is "i want to kill". That's what i mean. You can't judge from that fact.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I wanna redo Medaka vs Lavos now

LOL ok. xD

 

[ALRF]

Yes, characters who, in their normal mindset don't want to kill will do the act thanks to SBA. Say a character has never killed a person in their verse, SBA will make them willing to kill if they can.

Still doesn't mean they start with their hax from the get go. We're gonna go by what have they shown when it comes to battle.

 

[Schnee_One]

The thing is how she opens up is based on "i don't kill". SBA is "i want to kill". That's what i mean. You can't judge from that fact.

Nooooo that is bloodlust

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Yeah "it doesn't mean they start with hax" but doesn't have to mean "they start usually". If im in a street fight and i see a knife there i won't use it if im not willing to kill, i will use it right away if i am willing to kill doe. That's why i said "no one knows" rather than "medaka starts with hax". Medaka did spam her abilities when she was willing to kill and when she wanted to end a match quickly (see trample skills for it).

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Nooooo that is bloodlust

Wat? That's SBA isn't it. They are in characters but will try to kill their opponent, Medaka has shown to be spammy af once she wants to end the battle, which is what SBA does.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

She was basically bloodlusted there.