NNT Speed Revision

[ByAsura]

seems ok, then

 

[Demon_Lord18]

very good

 

[Antvasima]

So what are the current conclusions here, and should I call for some knowledgeable NNT supporters?

 

[ByAsura]

Unless Celestial Pegasus still likes NNT, I've already called them.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I am making another attempt, just to make certain.

@Celestial_Pegasus @Elizhaa @Damage3245 @DemonGodMitchAubin @IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 @Edwellken @VersusJunkie54 @Lormac_CC @LIFE_OF_KING @Deceived3596

Are any of you willing to help out here please?

 

[Lormac_CC]

I agree with the OP.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

 

[thetechmaster36]

seems good. though, like I said, it's only attack speed.

So then she would just be Sub-Rel+ normally, then have FTL Attack Speed with Drole's Dance + Gideon? Seems fine imo

 

[ByAsura]

I think so.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

4KOTA's Meliodas will be FTL+?

 

[ByAsura]

yes

 

[Makai641001]

yes

Speedster Is asking if this could be an upgrade Ludociel has Lightspeed movement/reactions but got blitzed by Mel

 

[ByAsura]

That doesn't necessarily mean he was blitzed (which Droleane was), just surprised. But I'd say surprising Ludoshel like that does mean 2nd Mark is faster.

give my thanks to speed, btw, this is good support for FTL Mael.

 

[Makai641001]

That doesn't necessarily mean he was blitzed (which Droleane was), just surprised. But I'd say surprising Ludoshel like that does mean 2nd Mark is faster.

give my thanks to speed, btw, this is good support for FTL Mael.

Okidoki i’ll tell him

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Could Dolor's feat of stopping Ryudoshel while he was going to attack the induras give him FTL somehow? Here

 

[ByAsura]

It's just a major outlier. Drole has been outsped by 50k Demon Meliodas and Chandler.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

It's just a major outlier. Drole has been outsped by 50k Demon Meliodas and Chandler.

Sad

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Wasn't the Meliodas who was in purgatory supposed to have a key?

Which Meliodas does he climb to?

 

[ByAsura]

He's featless, other than kind of clashing with 50% DK and then getting god stomped by DK when he decided to put in a bit of effort.

It's also implied to be his weakest form in terms of strength.

 

[ByAsura]

frequently able to perform feats on each other

@Zezu1995 Could you compile these scans in an imgur album?

 

[Demon_Lord18]

He's featless, other than kind of clashing with 50% DK and then getting god stomped by DK when he decided to put in a bit of effort.

apparently in this form he cannot use his demonic marks.

And no powers that use darkness. (As I recall)

 

[Zezu1995]

heres the scan i deleted it cuz for some reason i couldnt get it to open

 

[Nierre]

Looks good to me

 

[Makai641001]

apparently in this form he cannot use his demonic marks.

And no powers that use darkness. (As I recall)

He could use Trillion Dark and True Magic tho he is weakened in purgatory which means his true self should scale even higher than this version that could damage 50% DK and easily put holes in his body

 

[Demon_Lord18]

can we use Meliodas' 53.1c calculation?

 

[ByAsura]

heres the scan i deleted it cuz for some reason i couldnt get it to open

Thank you.

He could use Trillion Dark and True Magic tho he is weakened in purgatory which means his true self should scale even higher than this version that could damage 50% DK and easily put holes in his body

No he shouldn't. That version was a mental realm where strength doesn't matter. Zeldris alone could stomp DK there.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Obrigada.

Não, ele não deveria. Essa versão era um reino mental onde a força não importa. Zeldris sozinho poderia pisar DK lá.

Meliodas who escaped from purgatory < Meliodas base in the Real world?

 

[ByAsura]

Yes, but Meliodas who stomped 50% DK in mental world =/= Purgatory and Post-Purgatory Meliodas.

 

[Halkum145]

What is the speed rating of the god tiers in the series right now?

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Qual é a classificação de velocidade dos níveis divinos na série agora?

Thank God we managed to upgrade them to infinite/immeasurable

 

[Demon_Lord18]

What is the speed rating of the god tiers in the series right now?

FTL+ or MFTL (I don't know if you can use Meliodas' 53c calculation)

 

[Makai641001]

Thank you.

No he shouldn't. That version was a mental realm where strength doesn't matter. Zeldris alone could stomp DK there.

That « mental realm » had an effect on the irl DK tho wouldn’t that help ?

Speedster told me to show you this

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

That « mental realm » had an effect on the irl DK tho wouldn’t that help ?

For Scaling in Statistics that wouldn't be valid. But added justification for Supernatural Will Power or etc., would be easy enough since it was a battle of wills.

 

[Makai641001]

For Scaling in Statistics that wouldn't be valid. But added justification for Supernatural Will Power or etc., would be easy enough since it was a battle of wills.

That isn’t really a battle of will for the purgatory part i mean He vaped DK’s arm by awakening his true magic and his emotions are able to fight inside of purgatory He could parry attacks react etc… against DK that even implied that With his true magic Meliodas could harm him

Tho i think it’s fair to assume the Trillion dark part of the fight was just a battle of will where strength didn’t matter

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

What you said:

That isn’t really a battle of will for the purgatory part i mean He vaped DK’s arm by awakening his true magic and his emotions are able to fight inside of purgatory He could parry attacks react etc… against DK that even implied that With his true magic Meliodas could harm him

What you asked:

That « mental realm » had an effect on the irl DK tho wouldn’t that help ?

Why are you yapping about Emotion Meliodas when your question was about Meliodas in the Mental Realm?

 

[ByAsura]

That « mental realm » had an effect on the irl DK tho wouldn’t that help ?

It just ejected him from Meliodas' body. Zeldris also did that.

Speedster told me to show you this

We've gone over this exact argument. Meliodas is so much weaker than Ban, let alone 50% DK and Wild, that there's one-shotting gaps. 90% of the scans there are even Meliodas getting stomped with 0 effort.

Ban says he's nowhere near as powerful as before despite his previous form being pre-revival, and suggests he's weaker than Unsealed Meliodas.

That isn’t really a battle of will for the purgatory part i mean He vaped DK’s arm by awakening his true magic and his emotions are able to fight inside of purgatory He could parry attacks react etc… against DK that even implied that With his true magic Meliodas could harm him

True Magic really doesn't matter here because it's not base Meliodas. We already scale True Magic above a vague form of DK.

 

[Makai641001]

What you said:

What you asked:


Why are you yapping about Emotion Meliodas when your question was about Meliodas in the Mental Realm?

I was talking about the mental realm in the context of Meliodas stomping 50% DK

and about Purgatory in the context of him being able to fight and vaping his arm

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

and vaping his arm

So Meliodas using his True Magic, and not Base.

 

[Makai641001]

So Meliodas using his True Magic, and not Base.

His true magic Is just him awakening his real magic power in base form

 

[ByAsura]

That's never stated in-series, and just relies on the assumption (Speedster's I assume) that Meliodas wasn't using that power in DK's hand just because he was flying afterwards. It's shown to be separate from his base form when he transforms, and DK explicitly says he isn't using it in base form during their fight.

Also, if it's combinable with his base form, wouldn't he just stack all of his transformations on top of it and use the level of power needed to shred 50% DK's arm to wreck 100% DK rather than getting his ass kicked?

We've already rejected this in previous threads.