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Ludoshel literally says that Ominous Nebula's speed is faster than him
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That's what I have been trying to say the attack is faster than Zeldris and attacks instinctively. Escanor and ludociel tried to blindside Zeldris and they were still hit by the invisible attack.That's not for Zeldris' reflexes though? Ominous Nebula surpasses the spinal reflexes of those that it attracts due to its massive speed
The grace flash to be specificLudoshel literally says that Ominous Nebula's speed is faster than him
For the rest i can understand but why is it LS feat and not hax ?This is a LS feat not hax feat so No again
It does not attack instinctively though? It's literally a barrier where anything that comes into contact is sliced.That's what I have been trying to say the attack is faster than Zeldris and attacks instinctively. Escanor and ludociel tried to blindside Zeldris and they were still hit by the invisible attack.
What does LS mean?For the rest i can understand but why is it LS feat and not hax ?
Like I said I concede I was just giving more infoIt does not attack instinctively though? It's literally a barrier where anything that comes into contact is sliced.
AgreeIt is not invulnerability or instinctive reaction, literally any attack above it’s pay grade goes through it and instinctive reaction works by well reacting instinctively not cause you create a barrier around you
AgreeWe don’t grant powers that people did not grant themselves in the series. This would just be power bestowal
Discussed once from what I know. It depends on the nature of the attack. If the attack had effect immediately. Then yes, but this is up for agurmentIt has been explained many times and rejected many times so this is a NO NO a discussion rule is eminent at this point
AgreeAgain NO
Read above he was just stronger than the ominous nebula
Agree, if a Giant had death Manipulation. He wouldn't resistContext is all that matter and we don’t grant resistance to hax due to sudden increase in power level
Agree, Different types of demon don't scale to each other at least in terms of attacksWhen as any other shown this aside the gray demon?
How is this a LS featThis is a LS feat not hax feat so No again
Blindsiding really? Ludo literally let himself get sucked in to try and attack, and got knocked back by the barrierEscanor and ludociel tried to blindside Zeldris and they were still hit by the invisible attack.
That just means he's too fast for someone to counteract. From the scan itself:Also, it surpasses all spinal reflex
So it's just saying that the attack is too fast to avoid.And then anything that enters its range is cut down to bits by a slashing attack so swift it's impossible to avoid by any spinal reflex.
Lifting StrengthWhat does LS mean?
I mean when they tried to obscure Zeldris's vision the invisible attack still hit them.Blindsiding really? Ludo literally let himself get sucked in to try and attack, and got knocked back by the barrier
Just some information on spinal reflexSpinal reflexes are investigator-evoked artifacts arising from connections of stretch receptors in the muscle or nociceptors in the skin that activate a spinal motor neurons to evoke contractions/twitches in particular somatic muscles (e.g., the quadriceps muscle in a patellar tendon reflex).
These reflexes are commonly elicited by a train of electrical pulses (typically five 1-msec pulses at 200–300 Hz) and, rarely, by laser stimulation (Andersen et al 2006) and mechanical stimulation, such as ballistic impacts (Beise et al 1999).That just means he's too fast for someone to counteract. From the scan itself:
So it's just saying that the attack is too fast to avoid.
Yeah because it's a barrier that surrounds Zeldris, get it? No matter where they attack the barrier both blocks and damages them.I mean when they tried to obscure Zeldris's vision the invisible attack still hit them.
And how does that relate to the topic at handJust some information on spinal reflex
I am talking about reaction timeYeah because it's a barrier that surrounds Zeldris, get it? No matter where they attack the barrier both blocks and damages them.
And how does that relate to the topic at hand
So? Is it not obvious already that Ominous Nebula's rotational speed is faster than Ludoshel and his Grace to where he can't even see it's movementI am talking about reaction time
Never mind thenSo? Is it not obvious already that Ominous Nebula's rotational speed is faster than Ludoshel and his Grace to where he can't even see it's movement
The link for the scan isn’t working but from what I remembered he just could work just fine underneath 30X gravity which would mean he can handle 30 times his own mass just fineFor the rest i can understand but why is it LS feat and not hax ?
It is still a hax ability. Also don't Goku and Vegeta have resistance to gravity manipulation because of their training in the gravity chamber. Same for whis.The link for the scan isn’t working but from what I remembered he just could work just fine underneath 30X gravity which would mean he can handle 30 times his own mass just fine
Resistance to gravity manip means you are unaffected by any form of gravity which is untrue
It's on their profiles(meliodas and Hendrickson)The link for the scan isn’t working but from what I remembered he just could work just fine underneath 30X gravity which would mean he can handle 30 times his own mass just fine
Resistance to gravity manip means you are unaffected by any form of gravity which is untrue
They should lose it thenIt is still a hax ability. Also don't Goku and Vegeta have resistance to gravity manipulation because of their training in the gravity chamber. Same for whis.
They should also lose itIt's on their profiles(meliodas and Hendrickson)
I almost forgot zeldris has ominous bind he used it against the SD in the cursed by the light movie
Have you seen this?
How about the death zero one?This is a LS feat not hax feat so No again
Yes i agree although we have to wait for it to be accepted and added to the DK profileHow about the death zero one?
Should they get resistance due they can give some fight back and break the demon king great pressure?
Being resistant towards Gravity Manipulation doesn't mean your immune towards it, hence the term "Resistant" and not "Immune".Resistance to gravity manip means you are unaffected by any form of gravity which is untrue
I will check the other feats later currently busyHow about the death zero one?
Should they get resistance due they can give some fight back and break the demon king great pressure
About High Regen, I know it has been rejected may times but If we look closely, Estarossa survived the molecular attack which put him in the state death's door, then he fully heals all the wounds that were destroyed at the molecule level. So why it doesn't considered as High Regen. Besides why can't DK scale when he has all commandment, wasn't all of Etarossa's power when fought with 2 Archangel mostly due to the commandments?Again NO NO it has been rejected so many times already
That's because his body was still intact, we still see his body when he was slowly being killed.About High Regen, I know it has been rejected may times but If we look closely, Estarossa survived the molecular attack which put him in the state death's door,
That's because his body was still intact, we see still see his body when he was slowly being killed.
Do you have a scene where his body completely becomes molecules?
Do you or do you not have a scene of Estarossa's body turned into molecules and him regenerating from molecules?I don't think he was still intact, even Tarmiel and Sariel saw him almost dead which means Estarossa must have been wounded and those wounds must be destroy at molecules. I mean his body must have been destroyed to some extent to be considered near death with a lots of wounds and he is completely healed.
High: The ability to regenerate from a few scattered or lone molecules, atoms, or sub-atomic particles.
Ok, I guess I have misunderstand, what about the DK ? Why he can't have resistance to matter manipulation when Estarossa survived by commandment the power of DK ?Do you or do you not have a scene of Estarossa's body turned into molecules and him regenerating from molecules?
Because we see his body, we see him regenerating from his body, ergo he didn't regenerate from molecules.
He didn't use it to resist though, he absorbed the commandment then immediately proceeded to break out of the dimension which might be limited Spatial ManipulationOk, I guess I have misunderstand, what about the DK ? Why he can't have resistance to matter manipulation when Estarossa survived by commandment the power of DK ?
Its survived by regeneration after estarossa got destroy to point of the molecule ,he can broke out cause his power level surpassed both two sariel and tarmiel. Sariel already state that "without strength equal to us, he shouldn't be able to get out" from the domainHe didn't use it to resist though, he absorbed the commandment then immediately proceeded to break out of the dimension which might be limited Spatial Manipulation
The where's the scan which shows Estarossa's body reduced to molecules then?Its survived by regeneration after estarossa got destroy to point of the molecule
What even is your point here?he can broke out cause his power level surpassed both two sariel and tarmiel. Sariel already state that "without strength equal to us, he shouldn't be able to get out" from the domain
In 9:20 and 12:06The where's the scan which shows Estarossa's body reduced to molecules then?
I mean, i bit disagree with limited spatial manipulation estarossaWhat even is your point here?
We literally still see the silhouette of his body at 9:20, and that statement is based on them thinking that Estarossa couldn't escape, they even made that statement without realizing that Estarossa was right behind them
They don't know he can regen even down to the moleculesWe literally still see the silloueth of his body at 9:20, and that statement is based on them thinking that Estarossa couldn't escape, they even made that statement without realizing that Estarossa was right behind them
I agree with spatial hax, but why it has limited ?And as for you disagreeing with limited Spatial Hax, explain how he escaped then when they literally say he broke out. He hasn't showcased the ability to open portals nor teleport, explain what ability is escaping out of a pocket dimension without portals or teleportation.