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Lormac_CC said:
Yeah, goddess have been shown to exist with or without physical bodies, the even have low godly overtime
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Yes but he was under the esstrossa persona and never showed any goddess abilities till he regained his memories we can't just assume he always had them even if he did he never used them once when he was a demon
 
speedster352 said:
Yes but he was under the esstrossa persona and never showed any goddess abilities
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Not using goddess ability wouldn't change the fact that he doesn't have demon physiology. The commandments wouldn't grant him seven heart. It just gave him darkness, wiped away his memory and made him unstable
 
Would it be too much of a stretch to give high-ranking demons resistance to regeneration negation up to mid since esstrossa regenerated from sunshine?
 
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Lormac_CC said:
Not using goddess ability wouldn't change the fact that he doesn't have demon physiology. The commandments wouldn't grant him seven heart. It just gave him darkness, wiped away his memory and made him unstable
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He still had demonic traits and never used his goddess abilities once also esstrossa has a different profile from mael since they were under a different persona.
 
speedster352 said:
He still had demonic traits and never used his goddess abilities once also esstrossa has a different profile from mael since they were under a different persona.
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I know, it would change the fact that estarossa would still retain most of his physiology
 
speedster352 said:
That was when the spell was taking hold and anyway after he absorbed the commandment of love he lost his memories and goddesses abilities.
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Nothing states he lost goddess ability, reason why he never used it is because he believed he was always a Demon. Immediately he regained himself, he began using them, the commandments where still inside him
 
Lormac_CC said:
Nothing states he lost goddess ability, reason why he never used it is because he believed he was always a Demon. Immediately he regained himself, he began using them, the commandments where still inside him
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Alright fine but while he was a demon the feats and resistances he has may apply to high-ranking demons. Like is said the arguments can go both ways. Yes he may have still had his physiology but it’s not in character for him to use them and no one could tell if he was a goddess so he abilities and physiology was probably on low profile since literally everyone in the verse can sense magic presences.
 
speedster352 said:
Alright fine but while he was a demon the feats and resistances he has may apply to high-ranking demons
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Feats yes but shit like physiology resistance would scale to goddess. Even if we where to agree that he was damaged and needed to heal himself. That would scale to goddess not demon.
 
Lormac_CC said:
Feats yes but shit like physiology resistance would scale to goddess. Even if we where to agree that he was damaged and needed to heal himself. That would scale to goddess not demon.
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Meliodas regenerated from sunshine although it seem to take longer since he was knocked out.
 
Just to clarify:

• Tamriel and Sariel's combo grace attack breaks down a target into molecules (Currently Matter Manipulation but should be Deconstruction)

• The combo grace does not have Regen Negation, when they said that Demons can't regenerate from it they mean that they can't regenerate from being reduced to molecules because that's above what they can Regenerate.

• High Ranking Demons like Chandler and Cussack got killed by being cut into tiny pieces (High Mid Level Damage)
 
OneBleachHurricane said:
Just to clarify:

• Tamriel and Sariel's combo grace attack breaks down a target into molecules (Currently Matter Manipulation but should be Deconstruction)

• The combo grace does not have Regen Negation, when they said that Demons can't regenerate from it they mean that they can't regenerate from being reduced to molecules because that's above what they can Regenerate.

• High Ranking Demons like Chandler and Cussack got killed by being cut into tiny pieces (High Mid Level Damage)
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Agree
 
I think Mael/Estarossa's current Resistance is fine as is.

Estarossa currently has Resistance to Matter Manipulation/Deconstruction in his 2 Commandments Key which is more or less fine given that 1 Commandment Estarossa (Who is just Mael + 1 Commandment - Grace) would have died from the Combo Grace.
 
Estarossa tanked Elizabeth ark and was fine with no damage, the angels where even surprised. Elizabeth immediately after awaken used ark to destroy a commandment hand. Estarossa should have goddess physiology
 
Sorry I'm a day late.

Just assume I'm neutral or agree with what I don't comment on.
Rabbit2002 said:
Energy Manipulation, Invulnerability, Instince Reaction: via ominous nebula a technique allow the users completely unharmed by physical and magical attack and created darkness from dark energy. Merlin stated it would be full react.
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Although it's implied he has to consciously activate it, magic nullification works with or without ON. He even uses it a few chapters earlier.

Also, it's not shown that The Demon King has this power. It could easily be Zeldris' own magic, akin to Meliodas' original magic.
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Gravity Manipulation: via Dead's Zero causes strong suction and everything inside be crushed slowly out of existence.
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Crushing is the opposite of suction. And I don't see why that's Gravity Manipulation; it's only portrayed as an attack with a lot of pressure behind it, akin to a mountain.
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Regeneration (High): According to Tarmiel, Estarossa fully healed after took an attack that destory on the molecular level.
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He was shown to be intact before using the Commandment and then escaped, so we can't confirm if he was reduced to molecules.

Simply regenerating from damages sustained by this kind of attack isn't enough.
Rabbit2002 said:
Rage Power: He becomes stronger with his rage.
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This is consistent with Gowther's statements about Ban and Meliodas, so it seems fine.
Rabbit2002 said:
Durability Negation and Power Nullification: He could break through and cancel Zeldris's ominous nebula.
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He never used a magical attack, so no resistance to power nullification.
Rabbit2002 said:
Astral Projection: They can seperate soul of the other out of their body.
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They're not really existing as spirits. It's just ripping their soul out of their bodies.
Rabbit2002 said:
Body Control: Scaled to Gray Demon Hendrickson who can move his severed arm.
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Worth noting that Estarossa does something similar after Tarmiel and Sariel cut him apart.
Rabbit2002 said:
Resistance to Existence Erasure: High level demons can withstand the high level goddess's ark.
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That might just be an inability to erase high level demons rather than resistance.
 
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