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[speedster352]

And did you read the page itself?

Unless you have sufficient evidence that suggests that both Gowthers are actually Negating their Resistances, then they are simply overwhelming their Resistances.

Fine but we need more input for this.

 

[Jibz]

Could demon and doll gowther possibly have mind manipulation resistance since invasion worked on a lot of characters with mind manipulation(Demon king and SD and even Merlin)?

Your ability working on people resistant to it =/= Being resistant to it yourself.

Also i assumed from context in the manga that Demon Gowther’s memory manip was on another lvl compared to any other in the series so its more likely His memory manip > Their resistances, right?

 

[Jibz]

And did you read the page itself?

Unless you have sufficient evidence that suggests that both Gowthers are actually Negating their Resistances, then they are simply overwhelming their Resistances.

Exactly my point. It feels that his memory manip was just on another lvl compared to anything in the series and it was just better than any resistance they had rather then specifically ignoring / stopping any resistance they have.

Its a rather brash assumption to make to assume he just negged their resistances

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Fine but we need more input for this.

If we go by your logic, we'd have to add Resistance Negation to dozens of Profiles.

Also i assumed from context in the manga that Demon Gowther’s memory manip was on another lvl compared to any other in the series so its more likely His memory manip > Their resistances, right?

Yes

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Exactly my point. It feels that his memory manip was just on another lvl compared to anything in the series and it was just better than any resistance they had rather then specifically ignoring / stopping any resistance they have.

Its a rather brash assumption to make to assume he just negged their resistances

Yeah.

 

[speedster352]

I don't think they should. They may be more powerful, but this form is very different.

What do you think?

 

[ByAsura]

I added power null for gowther.

 

[speedster352]

bump

 

[speedster352]

I read that ludociels ark put demons between a state of life and death is this similar to memento mori from fairy tail? Should this be an ability on the profile?

 

[Majinere566]

I read that ludociels ark put demons between a state of life and death is this similar to memento mori from fairy tail? Should this be an ability on the profile?

Where did you read that from

 

[speedster352]

Where did you read that from

the manga 3000 years ago when king and Diane went to the past

 

[speedster352]

Where did you read that from

Can you calc the demon king's storm?

 

[speedster352]

Where did you read that from

Currently how fast are NNT characters in numbers?

 

[Majinere566]

the manga 3000 years ago when king and Diane went to the past

Send that

 

[speedster352]

Send that

here

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I read that ludociels ark put demons between a state of life and death is this similar to memento mori from fairy tail? Should this be an ability on the profile?

I don't think so. Ludociel was just being a prick there, the demons were still alive while being erased by Ludociel's Ark.

IMO, instead of dying immediately when large parts of their heads and torsos (where their hearts are) were erased, the demons were still aware and felt their bodies being erased by Ludociel's Ark hence them being "between life and death"

 

[speedster352]

I don't think so. Ludociel was just being a prick there, the demons were still alive while being erased by Ludociel's Ark.

IMO, instead of dying immediately when large parts of their heads and torsos (where their hearts are) were erased, the demons were still aware and felt their bodies being erased by Ludociel's Ark hence them being "between life and death"

What are you implying?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

What are you implying?

That it is not an ability, it's just something Ludociel can do with his Ark/EE.

Instead of those demons dying immediately the moment large parts of their heads and torsos got EE'd they were still alive until their entire bodies and magic were erased.

 

[speedster352]

That it is not an ability, it's just something Ludociel can do with his Ark/EE.

Instead of those demons dying immediately the moment large parts of their heads and torsos got EE'd they were still alive until their entire bodies and magic were erased.

Wouldn't paralysis inducement be okay?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Wouldn't paralysis inducement be okay?

They weren't paralyzed though? They just couldn't move because literally large parts of their bodies were being erased and they were in pain or shock of the effects of the Ark

 

[speedster352]

They weren't paralyzed though? They just couldn't move because literally large parts of their bodies were being erased and they were in pain or shock of the effects of the Ark

Alright never mind then

 

[Majinere566]

I have made the crt
https://vsbattles.com/threads/seven-deadly-sin-revisions-speed.132269/

 

[speedster352]

bump

 

[speedster352]

Manipulation Immunity: This negation spell grants immunity to the possession and brainwashing powers, including those of the Goddess Clan. It was used on Merlin and the Ten Commandments. Shoud the tc have resistance to mind manipulation?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Manipulation Immunity: This negation spell grants immunity to the possession and brainwashing powers, including those of the Goddess Clan. It was used on Merlin and the Ten Commandments. Shoud the tc have resistance to mind manipulation?

Again, Scans

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Also there's no such thing as Manipulation Immunity in this wiki.

 

[speedster352]

Also there's no such thing as Manipulation Immunity in this wiki.

I mean resitance since DK gave it to Merlin same for the TC

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I mean resitance since DK gave it to Merlin same for the TC

Merlin already has it as a Resistance though

Resistant to the following: Possession, Brainwashing, Curse Manipulation, Power Nullification (though she is still affected by her own Magic Seal), Mind Manipulation, Fire Manipulation, and Petrification (Received the Divine Protection of the Supreme Deity and Demon King, though in the case of Petrification she needs to consciously remove its effects)

 

[speedster352]

Merlin already has it as a Resistance though

I think the TC should have it too

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I think the TC should have it too

Don't they already have Resistance to Mind Manipulation via living in the Demon Realm? Wouldn't this just be additional supporting evidence?

And would only the commandments who were actually demons or the first demons who were part of the original ten commandments would receive this additional supporting feat?

 

[speedster352]

Don't they already have Resistance to Mind Manipulation via living in the Demon Realm? Wouldn't this just be additional supporting evidence?

And would only the commandments who were actually demons or the first demons who were part of the original ten commandments would receive this additional supporting feat?

Yeah the original should get the supporting evidence

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Yeah the orignalis should get the supporting evidence

I guess so because they were in direct contact with the DK

So Drole, Gloxnia, and Mael wouldn't get anything from that because they're not demons along with Fraudrin because he's a replacement commandment.

And from what it seems Zeldris was the one in charge of finding replacements and giving them the commandments as seen with Drole and Gloxnia