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NNT AP Revision

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ByAsura said:
You mean in that chapter? It's literally never remarked upon that he used The One ever (despite the fact that it's a huge deal in every chapter), they were in the Celestial Realm, and it doesn't make sense because even Ludoshel could have fended off that same form of Meliodas with just Tarmiel and Sariel (who are far inferior to even Vessel Ludoshel).

He retreated after a fight, and their darkness and light powers are shown to be equal.
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Light has an advantage over darkness btw Which conforts the idea of Mel being stronger
 
This Demon Mark Meliodas is already Large Country and Destroyer Enchantment is a 10× amp, He could actually be Continent+ since he broke Dahila's Armor with a punch which a Large Country enchanted zeldris couldn't do
 
Majinere566 said:
This Demon Mark Meliodas is already Large Country and Destroyer Enchantment is a 10× amp, He could actually be Continent+ since he broke Dahila's Armor with a punch which a Large Country enchanted zeldris couldn't do
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Im talking about holy war mel, not post purgatory
 
Majinere566 said:
Também notei é que, algo, primeiro, o ataque inicial da barreira, estava encantado de Meliodas e mesmo luta antes de Zeldris entrar e ajudar combo combo da CBL Merlin dobrodo

Então a durabilidade dela não deveria ser Continente ou Multicontinente?
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O Meliodas sozinho não seria capaz de quebrar a barreira usando encantamento, isso não tornaria a durabilidade da barreira continental? Já que Meliodas com encantamento é continental!?
Majinere566 said:
Também algo que notei é que, inicialmente, o ataque encantado inicial da barreira da divindade suprema de Meliodas e estava mesmo lutando antes de Zeldris entrar e ajudar, também iirc de acordo com o romance da CBL Merlin dobrou o combo encantado

Então a durabilidade dela não deveria ser Continente ou Multicontinente?
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Eu concordo, já que Meliodas e zeldris são continentais, certo!?



Concordo com a durabilidade da barreira ser continental/multicontinental
 
Pekiodas said:
O Meliodas sozinho não seria capaz de quebrar a barreira usando encantamento, isso não tornaria a durabilidade da barreira continental? Já que Meliodas com encantamento é continental!?

Eu concordo, já que Meliodas e zeldris são continentais, certo!?



Concordo com a durabilidade da barreira ser continental/multicontinental
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Speak english/gringes
 
Majinere566 said:
Found the page but it's not translated
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いりょく ばいぞう その無限の魔力で、 神殺しの一刀の威力を倍増させたことを。

« With her infinite magical power she doubled the power of the God-Slayer sword »

The sentences after are just about her painful burn scars and the end of the gods era

The sentences before are a description of her beauty cuz Nakaba is a simp and about her deciding to lend them her strength with her infinite magical power
 
Makai641001 said:
Light has an advantage over darkness btw Which conforts the idea of Mel being stronger
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Not in terms of raw AP. Darkness can be used to counter light.
Steve_Rogers1 said:
This should scale her barrier to Enchanter 2nd Mark Meliodas.

You should definitely grab a scan for that
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It already does.
Majinere566 said:
When does Dahila survive an Enchanted attack?
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He tanks Zeldris' Sphere Destruction Sphere Thrust around 28 minutes in the movie.

Guess it can be used for scaling.
Majinere566 said:
Also Something I noticed is that initially, The Supreme Deity's Barrier Tanked Meliodas' Initial Enchanted Attack and was even struggling before Zeldris comes in and helps, also iirc according to the novel for CBL Merlin doubled the Enchanted combo

So shouldn't her durability be Continent or Multi Continent?
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That's not her durability, that's just via barriers and even the combo that struggled like **** to break through them wiped away half her body at a distance. I already scale them on the profile.

On this note, though, she needs Continent level durability for surviving her FC'd attack.
 
Majinere566 said:
Also Something I noticed is that initially, The Supreme Deity's Barrier Tanked Meliodas' Initial Enchanted Attack and was even struggling before Zeldris comes in and helps, also iirc according to the novel for CBL Merlin doubled the Enchanted combo

So shouldn't her durability be Continent or Multi Continent?
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Click to expand...Meliodas alone wouldn't be able to destroy the barrier using the enchantment, wouldn't that make the continental barrier's resistance? Since Meliodas with enchantment is continental!?

I agree, since Meliodas and zeldris are continental, right!?



I agree with the durability of the barrier being continental/multicontinental
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Speak english/gringes
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Are you happy now?
 
Speaking of which

If this Zeldris is 412 Teratons in base, that means his enchanted attack is 4.12 petatons. That would also make dahila's durability 4.12 petatons in his armored chasteifol form.

Then 2nd Demon Mark destroyed his armor with a punch so he should be 4.12 petatons.

Would that mean the Supreme Deity should also be 4.12 petatons since she stated that Meliodas would've needed his true magic to defeat her singlehandedly? If yes then her durability should be 8.24 petatons for surviving her FC attack. And her barriers should be 41.2 petatons for taking an Enchanted hit from Meliodas

Actually come to think of it this is 50% Supreme Deity because she doesn't have her Graces. So Full power Supreme Deity could be Multi Continent level, which means characters like 100% Demon King, The One and The One Ultimate could scale to this value.

Thoughts?
 
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Majinere566 said:
Speaking of which

If this Zeldris is 412 Teratons in base, that means his enchanted attack is 4.12 petatons. That would also make dahila's durability 4.12 petatons in his armored chasteifol form.

Then 2nd Demon Mark destroyed his armor with a punch so he should be 4.12 petatons.

Would that mean the Supreme Deity should also be 4.12 petatons since she stated that Meliodas would've needed his true magic to defeat her singlehandedly? If yes then her durability should be 8.24 petatons for surviving her FC attack. And her barriers should be 41.2 petatons for taking an Enchanted hit from Meliodas

Actually come to think of it this is 50% Supreme Deity because she doesn't have her Graces. So Full power Supreme Deity could be Multi Continent level, which means characters like 100% Demon King, The One and The One Ultimate could scale to this value.

Thoughts?
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Seems good to me.

Y'all can hash this out while I finish the Helbram shit.
Makai641001 said:
He massively outscale Diane and King atm they say his power lvl is insanely High
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Which would maybe put him above Albion.
Makai641001 said:
Pretty sure It is said Fraudrin barely substitute him
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Mel says that about Gowther more than the Commandments. It's also worth noting that, even in his smaller form, Fraud-man's magic power, strength and overall power level are enough to place him among the lower Commandments.
Makai641001 said:
We could scale him to either King or Fraudrin and put a higher but i agree to the removal of the current arguments
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At that point, it's probably best to remove it.
 
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CBL Zeldris scales directly to Meliodas, Dubs and Dahlia (1st Mark in the case of the latter two).
 
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Majinere566 said:
Speaking of which

If this Zeldris is 412 Teratons in base, that means his enchanted attack is 4.12 petatons. That would also make dahila's durability 4.12 petatons in his armored chasteifol form.

Then 2nd Demon Mark destroyed his armor with a punch so he should be 4.12 petatons.

Would that mean the Supreme Deity should also be 4.12 petatons since she stated that Meliodas would've needed his true magic to defeat her singlehandedly? If yes then her durability should be 8.24 petatons for surviving her FC attack. And her barriers should be 41.2 petatons for taking an Enchanted hit from Meliodas

Actually come to think of it this is 50% Supreme Deity because she doesn't have her Graces. So Full power Supreme Deity could be Multi Continent level, which means characters like 100% Demon King, The One and The One Ultimate could scale to this value.

Thoughts?
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Seems nice, but shouldn't their ap scale as well? As the demon king and the Supreme deity should be able to hurt eachother

This might cause some inconsistencies tho
 
SD and DK never harm each other, and explicitly have equal power.

Also, SD tanked her own attack. So it'd be circular scaling to scale her own AP from that.
 
Then what about the demon king trading blows with escanor ? Or we won't scale the demon king to the deity
 
We don't really have any reason to assume their durability is equal. But, technically, Escanor is already at that level because PDK is 2x more durable than DK.
 
ByAsura said:
We don't really have any reason to assume their durability is equal. But, technically, Escanor is already at that level because PDK is 2x more durable than DK.
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If they had equal power but unequal durability that means one of them has a advantage, which isn't the case narrative wise

I guess we won't scale the dk because it causes issues
 
It doesn't really cause issues, it's just circular scaling like I said.
 
Is there anything against scaling sd's ap to her durability? I think the dk vs escanor fight is evident enough to say that they can match characters who can hurt them
 
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