NNT AP Revision

[speedster352]

Yes.

You, Mitch and I have been through this numerous times. Unfortunately, while it's somewhat impressive, it's not anywhere close to the current ratings.

That's like Town level. I remember calculating it.

That wouldn't work here. This isn't open air, this is an object. So the flames being as hot as lightning wouldn't have any bearing on the amount of energy it can impart onto something like concrete.

Yeah but what about Escanor heat feats? Also I am talking about using heat capacity since the sun exploded. What about the hound Estarossa used it has a pretty decent feat with heat capacity.

 

[ByAsura]

I know what you mean, I'm just saying it's not impressive.

Take this as a rule of thumb; if it's smaller than the Red Demon's Hellblaze, like the Hound, it's going to get lower results.

 

[Makai641001]

I know what you mean, I'm just saying it's not impressive.

Take this as a rule of thumb; if it's smaller than the Red Demon's Hellblaze, like the Hound, it's going to get lower results.

I have a genuine question.

When We calc the darkness pillar that destroyed Danafor why don’t We use the upper part of it ?

It litteraly pass through matter and disintegrate/vape it so couldn’t We take the upper part and include it in the calc?

 

[ByAsura]

By the upper part, do you mean the section that went into the sky?

Let's use this as a reference, since it's the largest depiction of the skyward pillar IIRC. The sky portion of the pillar is 1481 pixels, while the width of the pillar is 1011 px. On the other hand, the depth of the pillar is more than twice the width, so that only increases the calc by like 64% (unless, of course, you can find a larger depiction of the pillar).

However, Meliodas did it on the surface of Danafor, meaning the part that went into the sky didn't encounter any resistance. So I'm not sure if we can actually consider it to be applicable.

 

[speedster352]

By the upper part, do you mean the section that went into the sky?

Let's use this as a reference, since it's the largest depiction of the skyward pillar IIRC. The sky portion of the pillar is 1481 pixels, while the width of the pillar is 1011 px. On the other hand, the depth of the pillar is more than twice the width, so that only increases the calc by like 64% (unless, of course, you can find a larger depiction of the pillar).

However, Meliodas did it on the surface of Danafor, meaning the part that went into the sky didn't encounter any resistance. So I'm not sure if we can actually consider it to be applicable.

Any luck with sandbox?

 

[Majinere566]

What needs to be done here?

 

[speedster352]

What needs to be done here?

Helbram calc needs to be accepted and byashura needs to finish the sandbox

 

[speedster352]

I know what you mean, I'm just saying it's not impressive.

Take this as a rule of thumb; if it's smaller than the Red Demon's Hellblaze, like the Hound, it's going to get lower results.

Any progress?

 

[speedster352]

I'm not sure, sorry.

Any luck with the sandbox?

 

[ByAsura]

You said you'd stop asking me that every day.

 

[speedster352]

You said you'd stop asking me that every day.

I didn’t ask for a while if I did my bad did you make the calc group discussion for your helbram calc?

 

[ByAsura]

Yes you did.

No. Whatever, I'll do it now before I go to work.

Edit: Calc group thread.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out, ByAsura.

 

[ByAsura]

Here's most of the completed sandbox that doesn't include Helbram scaling (hence some of the blank ratings).

I still need to include magic power night-amps for the Demons.

 

[speedster352]

Here's most of the completed sandbox that doesn't include Helbram scaling (hence some of the blank ratings).

I still need to include magic power night-amps for the Demons.

Awesome quick question weren’t Drole and gloxinia fully recovered with droplet of life? Even king and Diane Mention this after they are healed by the droplet of life. What is base Melascula ap? About the night amp do you agree with it being 2x scaling to vampires? Vampires are a sub race of the demon clan.
EDIT Drole and gloxinia were half dead and after tanking the droplet of life they were fully healed. Also shouldn’t king and gloxinia durabity be higher with armour as well? Doesn’t king get enchantments? Why doesn’t Elizabeth durability scale to get apso many questions

 

[ByAsura]

Not their bodies, their magic due to the seal's effects.

Comparable to Gowther physically.

No. And that's never stated, they're just monsters made by Chaos.

 

[speedster352]

Not their bodies, their magic due to the seal's effects.

Comparable to Gowther physically.

No. And that's never stated, they're just monsters made by Chaos.

Everyone was created by chaos the vampire clan are repeatedly stated to be a sub race to the demon clan. They have more than one hearts too and also they are from the same realm.

 

[speedster352]

EDIT Drole and gloxinia were half dead and after tanking the droplet of life they were fully healed. Also shouldn’t king and gloxinia durabity be higher with armour as well? Doesn’t king get enchantments? Why doesn’t Elizabeth durability scale to get apso many questions

Not their bodies, their magic due to the seal's effects.

Comparable to Gowther physically.

No. And that's never stated, they're just monsters made by Chaos.

 

[ByAsura]

Monsters =/= main five races.

Q283

Is there any possibility of any races other than the main five appearing in the future?

Apart from the main five, there are also monsters. All born from the Mother of Chaos.

******* where?

You keep spouting that they're the same species, but you've never even given me the slightest shred of proof.

 

[speedster352]

Monsters =/= main five races.

Q283

Is there any possibility of any races other than the main five appearing in the future?

Apart from the main five, there are also monsters. All born from the Mother of Chaos.

******* where?

You keep spouting that they're the same species, but you've never even given me the slightest shred of proof.

Vampires are one of the minor races in the world of Nanatsu no Taizai and were once allies yet subservient vassals of the Demon Clan in the Holy War 3,000 years ago.

 

[Deceived3596]

Vampires are one of the minor races in the world of Nanatsu no Taizai and were once allies yet subservient vassals of the Demon Clan in the Holy War 3,000 years ago.

That doesn't prove they're a sub-sect of demons.... It just proves they were once vassals of the demon clan, which doesn't prove your initial claim about them being a sub-sect of demons at all....

 

[ByAsura]

EDIT Drole and gloxinia were half dead and after tanking the droplet of life they were fully healed.

Gloxinia needed the droplet to survive, and even then he was able to summon the droplet. Drole got up and was able to fight before base Meliodas cut him to pieces with Lostvayne, after which Gloxinia healed him.

I have the scans in my sandbox and mentioned how severe the damage was with very specific wording (notably, I didn't say survived for Gloxinia, just took since he wouldn't have survived for much longer without healing).

Also shouldn’t king and gloxinia durabity be higher with armour as well?

I have that on the sandbox.

Doesn’t king get enchantments?

Because his spear is always infused with magic, and it's not even known what type of magic he uses since many forms of magic (Enchanter, Destroyer and Empath) can be imbued into weapons.

You've asked me this a million times, so I'd prefer it if you keep this somewhere.

Why doesn’t Elizabeth durability scale to get ap

What do you even mean by this? Do you mean characters getting AP from damaging her? If so, then Snake Melascula already scales.

so many questions

If you have so many questions, then I recommend that you read my sandbox more thoroughly this time. All of your questions here could have been answered.

Vampires are one of the minor races in the world of Nanatsu no Taizai and were once allies yet subservient vassals of the Demon Clan in the Holy War 3,000 years ago.

Allies doesn't mean they're the same species, and it straight up says minor races. So this copy-pasted wiki description with no sources actually contradicts you.

 

[ByAsura]

That doesn't prove they're a sub-sect of demons.... It just proves they were once vassals of the demon clan, which doesn't prove your initial claim about them being a sub-sect of demons at all....

Vampires are one of the minor races in the world of Nanatsu no Taizai and were once allies yet subservient vassals of the Demon Clan in the Holy War 3,000 years ago.

I decided to look at the trivia in that wiki page Speed copy-pasted that description from, and it straight-up says 'They served as allies of the Demon Clan in the ancient war but are a separate race from the Demons.'

 

[Deceived3596]

I decided to look at the trivia in that wiki page Speed copy-pasted that description from, and it straight-up says 'They served as allies of the Demon Clan in the ancient war but are a separate race from the Demons.'

 

[speedster352]

Gloxinia needed the droplet to survive, and even then he was able to summon the droplet. Drole got up and was able to fight before base Meliodas cut him to pieces with Lostvayne, after which Gloxinia healed him.

I have the scans in my sandbox and mentioned how severe the damage was with very specific wording (notably, I didn't say survived for Gloxinia, just took since he wouldn't have survived for much longer without healing).

I have that on the sandbox.

Because his spear is always infused with magic, and it's not even known what type of magic he uses since many forms of magic (Enchanter, Destroyer and Empath) can be imbued into weapons.

You've asked me this a million times, so I'd prefer it if you keep this somewhere.

What do you even mean by this? Do you mean characters getting AP from damaging her? If so, then Snake Melascula already scales.

If you have so many questions, then I recommend that you read my sandbox more thoroughly this time. All of your questions here could have been answered.

Allies doesn't mean they're the same species, and it straight up says minor races. So this copy-pasted wiki description with no sources actually contradicts you.

My bad I misremembered things.

I decided to look at the trivia in that wiki page Speed copy-pasted that description from, and it straight-up says 'They served as allies of the Demon Clan in the ancient war but are a separate race from the Demons.'

How’s life?

 

[Makai641001]

Vampires are one of the minor races in the world of Nanatsu no Taizai and were once allies yet subservient vassals of the Demon Clan in the Holy War 3,000 years ago.

They have similar powers but aren’t the same race

The fact that they are a minor race litteraly indicate they weren’t born at the same Time as demons they are Just monsters

 

[speedster352]

I decided to look at the trivia in that wiki page Speed copy-pasted that description from, and it straight-up says 'They served as allies of the Demon Clan in the ancient war but are a separate race from the Demons.'

You forgot to add this to Meliodas Actualy いや can be written 弥 And mean extremely which would translate to something like « extremely/Very beyond » beyond = 以上

 

[speedster352]

Monsters =/= main five races.

Q283

Is there any possibility of any races other than the main five appearing in the future?

Apart from the main five, there are also monsters. All born from the Mother of Chaos.

******* where?

You keep spouting that they're the same species, but you've never even given me the slightest shred of proof.

AM Meliodas should be higher and true magic should be far higher.

 

[speedster352]

I still need to include magic power night-amps for the Demons.

It should be noted that thanks to the night amp Chandler was able to overpower the sins when his magic was cut in half.

 

[speedster352]

Here's most of the completed sandbox that doesn't include Helbram scaling (hence some of the blank ratings).

I still need to include magic power night-amps for the Demons.

Why doesn’t 4koa Meliodas have the enchantment amp?

 

[speedster352]

Here's most of the completed sandbox that doesn't include Helbram scaling (hence some of the blank ratings).

I still need to include magic power night-amps for the Demons.

They have similar powers but aren’t the same race

The fact that they are a minor race litteraly indicate they weren’t born at the same Time as demons they are Just monsters

What are your thoughts on the sandbox?

 

[Majinere566]

Here's most of the completed sandbox that doesn't include Helbram scaling (hence some of the blank ratings).

Lancelot is also able to enchant 3 arrows. Shouldn't that get him to Continental ?

 

[Antvasima]

Thanks again for helping out, ByAsura.

 

[ByAsura]

You forgot to add this to Meliodas Actualy いや can be written 弥 And mean extremely which would translate to something like « extremely/Very beyond » beyond = 以上

I didn't. I just added the correctly translated scan.

Why doesn’t 4koa Meliodas have the enchantment amp?

Oh yeah, I forgot.

It should be noted that thanks to the night amp Chandler was able to overpower the sins when his magic was cut in half.

He already scales many times higher than them, and they were greatly weakened.

Lancelot is also able to enchant 3 arrows. Shouldn't that get him to Continental ?

Do we know exactly what type of magic he uses?

AM Meliodas should be higher and true magic should be far higher.

That seems better.

How’s life?

Fine. Hby?

 

[Majinere566]

Do we know exactly what type of magic he uses?

No that's why we should use the 2× end

 

[ByAsura]

Adding traits to a weapon isn't limited to enchanter/destroyer. So was it stated outright that it was something like an enchant?

 

[Majinere566]

What do you mean?

 

[speedster352]

I didn't. I just added the correctly translated scan.

Oh yeah, I forgot.

He already scales many times higher than them, and they were greatly weakened.

Do we know exactly what type of magic he uses?

That seems better.

Fine. Hby?

I am doing great. I thought you said the raws take precedence

 

[speedster352]

Adding traits to a weapon isn't limited to enchanter/destroyer. So was it stated outright that it was something like an enchant?

Lacelot calls percival an amateur meaning that he knows how to enchant weapons better.

 

[speedster352]

Adding traits to a weapon isn't limited to enchanter/destroyer. So was it stated outright that it was something like an enchant?

Tristian should still have 10x amp with destroyer magic aka darkness which he coats on his sword