(Staff Needed) Ninjagos Tiering 2.5

[Lloydblitzed]

we dont see space affected, therefore space wasnt affected.

"Nothing is left" of the Realm and "all that was left was a grain of sand" indicates the Realm is gone. Also, being in a Realm that gets destroyed will 100% kill you, so the space was destroyed offscreen, else Nadakhan would've litterally not survived. Arguing against someone stating 3 times his Realm is gone is legimatly stupid.

I never said it did, mergequakes arent tier 2 to begin with. the merge is tier 2.


Disproves the notion that closing a mergequake stops realms from sharing a space.

What? How in hell does a feat that suck people up downscale a tier 2 feat ? Where is it said Mergequakes "only suck people in and cause great destruction" ? NOWHERE

No one argued that

You did right here:

Ive went and gathered more evidence to prove mergequakes arent Tier 2 (These scans are from the Tales From The Merged Realms book, which is canon)

These scans here implies and lines up with what i said in the previous thread about the Mergequakes. That closing them just stops the damage to the area, preventing people from getting sucked in or preventing things from coming out of the mergequakes. It doesnt stop them from merging as they already merged. Also the mergequakes vary in strength, so closing one wouldnt mean it needs tier 2 power to close

Youre right, Merge is affecting the realms, mergequakes arent. glad we cleared that up

Explain this and this?
Again, you aren't debunking anything, just adding infos to the feat. My arguments still stands, and I don't see how anything you said disprove tier 2
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I was debating on whether or not to comment a rebuttal again but I feel like i have to just to clear the air.

As everyone should know by now what the mergequakes are by now, but if you dont ill give a short and very brief summary (Mergequakes are basically after effects of the original merge caused by realms sharing the same space). Now these two graphics are used by detractors of the downgrade to support the mergequakes being tier 2 so ill explain why they arent. Now there are two reasons for the mergequakes being tier 2 on their profiles so ill go through both points

Sharing the same space
This is on their profile for the reason of “ Mergequakes have been said to be 2 Realms trying to share a same space, and stopping one would mean stopping them from sharing that space, thus pulling those Realms away” Now, this is false not only for the reason is that is never supported by the series or implied that what closing a mergequake does, but also for another reason. This is because of this graphic which claims two realms colliding causes a mergequake to appear and that closing one pulls them away. This point makes sense if you know nothing about the series. This conclusion is based off of literally one statement of it being “two realms”, which is only true if you take his statement hyper literally and not just Lloyd explaining the basic gist of things. This would also not make sense due to the fact that multiple mergequakes can happen at the same time and the fact that Beatrix can open more mergequakes. This would disprove the diagram as if it is to be believed, meaning one mergequake = realm merging, then hundreds of them happening at the same time and artificially opening more shouldn’t be possible.

TLDR: Mergequakes should be treated as simple cracks in reality until proven otherwise.

Mergequakes can destroy the world
This point is true, but only in large enough quantities. The Ninja have only been shown closing one at a time and sometimes needing multiple people to help close one.

 

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This would also not make sense due to the fact that multiple mergequakes can happen at the same time and the fact that Beatrix can open more mergequakes. This would disprove the diagram as if it is to be believed, meaning one mergequake = realm merging, then hundreds of them happening at the same time and artificially opening more shouldn’t be possible.

They could just be merging in different spots. That’s it.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Sharing the same space
This is on their profile for the reason of “ Mergequakes have been said to be 2 Realms trying to share a same space, and stopping one would mean stopping them from sharing that space, thus pulling those Realms away” Now, this is false not only for the reason is that is never supported by the series or implied that what closing a mergequake does, but also for another reason. This is because of this graphic which claims two realms colliding causes a mergequake to appear and that closing one pulls them away. This point makes sense if you know nothing about the series. This conclusion is based off of literally one statement of it being “two realms”, which is only true if you take his statement hyper literally and not just Lloyd explaining the basic gist of things. This would also not make sense due to the fact that multiple mergequakes can happen at the same time and the fact that Beatrix can open more mergequakes.

Zane confirms Mergequakes were happening one of the time (before what Beatrix did). And Beatrix just created a big Mergequake storm which is something completly different from normal Mergequakes, you can't compare the 2 events

 

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Minaaaaa recreating CRTs after the previous one fails just to downgrade the verse be like:

 

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Updated the OP to mark out star tiering. I want to handle that in a seperate thread as i have more evidence against it

 

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