So the Onis are seriously gonna destroy the space and let the Realms like that? The other scans litterally supports absolute destruction and Garmadon says EVERYTHING WILL BE GONE. Nothing will be left of the realms, no planets, no human, no space, no time, nothing
... or this statement was used in metaphorical sense which means that everything will be gone in terms of Ninjago and other Realms populations. And considering that we saw in the show, this is the most likely variant.
Despite the fact that Garmadon could just be exaggerating (which he most likely was since nothing, not even the other realms were destroyed), there's literally no evidence that physical destruction or spatial destruction is taking place, other than out of context "destroy the realms" statement
U cannot prove this at all
Prove he was exagerrating. Why would he be exagerrating if he cares more about his own survival. He clearly knew he could survive the Oni Cloud, so why would he fear their destruction or state that everything would be gone and why would he care about anyone else but himself
? He clearly implies the entire realm is getting destroyed
Hes exaggerating because no actual destruction took place. Everything in ninjago city wasnt destroyed nor everything in the other realms. He fears their "destruction" because the oni are way more powerful than him, notably with the omegaProve he was exagerrating. Why would he be exagerrating if he cares more about his own survival. He clearly knew he could survive the Oni Cloud, so why would he fear their destruction or state that everything would be gone and why would he care about anyone else but himself
also the show and trailer literally shows them covering the realms in their cloud
Yes, because as I said, they were getting rid of the powerful entities that could interfere with their plans. No-one ever stated that Cloud is how they destroy Realms. Via that logic Bill must be downgraded to Town, because he never actually shows destruction of Universe, Multiverse, or anything, so all the statements stating he can do that are just hyperboles. But it does NOT work like that. His feat there is natural and pure, and he is trying to get rid of his love for Lloyd in order to stop Onis. You also have 0 proofs that say that Cloud is how they are supposed to destroy the Realms, once again.
By their power - Destruction. If you mean the name of technique — unknown. We also don’t know how the technique of destroying the Balance is called, or the technique of creating the Realms.
Leaving nothing means that nothing will be left there. With the further backup from other sources it is clear that Destruction of all Realms is meant.
By using Destruction? Nobody specified it was the Cloud that destroys the Realms
They are blowing up the Realm? How does the method even matter? As Orange said, we don't know what are the methods to destroy the Balance, so that means Overlord can't do it?
All evidence implies the absolute destruction of the realm, not the "death of all life inside it". And u can't counter what Garmadon said because he clearly isn't exagerrating anything
Even the book you use is against you
If it was only about "the population", Garmadon would not even be clearly worried
Buddy, he knows he can survive the Cloud, why would he fear about them destroying everything and leaving absolulty nothing else behind?
None of the evidence implies physical destruction, ur isolating the statements to try and stretch them to the highest levelAll evidence implies the absolute destruction of the realm, not the "death of all life inside it". And u can't counter what Garmadon said because he clearly isn't exagerrating anything
It is your burden of proof to show that Onis destroy it via the Cloud. If you don’t have it, Garmadon remains at 2-C. That’s it.
The first one ACTUALLY supports our point. They don’t show physical destruction via the Cloud, so Cloud is not how they destroy it. Also “SOON, there will be nothing but Destruction” LITERALLY IMPLIES that at this point Ninjago Realm is NOT supposed to be destroyed at all, it must happen SOON.
It isn’t a hyperbole seeing Garmadon’s genuine fear, and being consistently repeated by the sources. This is literally strawmanning…
What technique did FSM use to create the Realms? What technique Overlord was going to use to destroy the Balance? There are tons of example like this, and the point is not knowing the name of technique of how they do the feat ≠ feat does not exist
“Blowing up the Realms” is just an example… and “how” kills me. How does Kai summon fire? Does he think about it and fire simply is summoned to his head? Or does he change the temperature around his hand and creates fire? Do his hands move so fast that the fire is created? This literally does NOT matter, he still gets Fire Manipulation. Same with Onis: regardless of us not knowing HOW exactly they were gonna do it, they still would perform 2-C feat.
The Oni are "destroying" the realms via their cloud because its simple logic and reasoning given the evidence. Burden of Proof falls on YOU to prove their cloud isnt the way theyre doing it. Also, i never argued the cloud destroys the realms, the onis cloud, by definition fits with High 3-A and NOT 2-C
Yes, he cares for his own survival, which he why he wants the oni gone because they wouldve killed him. Oni beings arent invincible, they can be killed those stronger than them/other oni like what he did with Mystake
Dude what? You literally are trying to argue that The Oni are destroying the realms through unknown means. Kai having fire is NOT the same thing as the oni destroying an entire universe as what youre claming, one is a power, one is a feat. Just saying "theyre destroying the world" without any context on HOW theyre doing it makes the feat unquantifiable. For example; statements of "destroying the world" are useless without context and reasoning applied. Are they destroying it through their collapse of society? are they destroying it via a surface wipe? are they actually destroying the planet? Another example is using a higher tier feat of a character "destroying the universe"; are they doing it through taking control and ruling over the planets of the universe? are they doing it through an omnidirectional explosion? are they doing it by destroying its entire space-time? See how these statement of "Destroying X" dont meant anything and are unquantifiable when proper context isnt appllied? Same thing applies to The Oni, you keep sayng they can destroy the realms, but never gave an explanation on HOW they are allegedly doing it.
Then do it?
”destroying the world” is generally unquantifiable feat only due to “world” being a vague thing. “Realm” is already proven to be 4D structure, so 15 Realms must be Low Multiverse.
You gave literally 0 statements of Cloud being the way they destroy the Multiverse. I have evidence of Clouds not being it: they do not destroy buildings, people, etc.; they are made for combat and occupation, not destruction. If you don’t argue that Cloud is how they destroy the Realms then you are basically done and Onis are still 2-C and Garmadon too (although his Oni form must be 2-C via hurting Overlord regardless)
They are stated to destroy all the Realms multiple times. Via your logic, “what if” they destroy it by destroying an atom per second so it eventually destroys everything after many years? You can come up with many “what if”s, but it is still your burden of proof
Overlord is ignored?
Bullcrap. Prove to me that they can destroy it with one attack and without going into those universes and without using portals. If you can't then there's no evidence of a 2-C feat.
Darkness and Golden Power are not Destruction and Creation. Do not use Overlord and FSM here.
This still means absolutely nothing without context, as i have kept asking and still have not gotten a solid answer, HOW ARE THEY DESTROYING THE REALMS, You still have not gave an answer to this. You are literally saying
This is literally false considering the cloud is literally the ONLY thing theyve been shown to do in the show. You keep saying it they do it without it but have not shown a SINGLE piece of evidence suggesting otherwise. Screaming 'theyre doing it through their power' is not only does it lead right back 'how are they doing it' but also forgets that THE CLOUD IS LITERALLY THEIR POWER.
i am using an analogue
It does NOT matter how, it WILL be 2-C feat unless you can prove otherwise
