Ninjago Downgrade

[Yobo_Blue]

Well, it's that time of year again.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Yobobojojo/Ninjago_Calcs:_Morro's_storm

Since the new calculation standards have gone through, its time to downgrade the LEGO's to the original calc value of High 7-C

 

[DMB_1]

All right: while I don't really understand Storm Calcs that much, I suppose that they are fine if it works with the new revision's standards.

Anywyays, I woould like to have the result of that Volcano calc you previously proposed (which was never calculated though), which if it does scale to durability, it would scale to the Ninjas at full potential, to the Elemental Blades and to the Stone Army )if it gets a higher result, of course).

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I've also messaged the supporters of the verse BTW.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Seems fine to me, if the storm was formed, not moved, I forgot and I can't check cuz the video got copystriked

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Yeah, I took a look at it again, and it was definitely formed.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Ok. So, we should probably calculate condensation and see if it gets higher results than CAPE.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Unfortunately, I can't find it on YouTube. I had to use watch cartoon online.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Nvm, we can just use the original measurements in the original calc. Just give me a few minutes.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

According to the Cloud Calculations page:

To calculate the energy necessary to create/destroy the clouds via condensation/vaporisation simply take the mass of the clouds (water mass, without air), in kilogram, and multiply it by the latent heat of vaporization for water, which is 2264705 J/kg. An even better result can be reached if one estimates the temperature and uses the formula here to get the latent heat of condensation for water in clouds and multiplies that with the mass of the clouds (in gram).

Since it was formed we should probably use condensation, which is 2 264 705 J/kg.

The cloud was 6.369e11 kg.

6.369e11*2264705 = 1.4423906145e18 Joules, Mountain level

Wtf that's even higher than KE.

 

[Elizhaa]

I agreed with the OP

 

[Andytrenom]

@Spino Did you use the 1.003 density value?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

@Andytrenom Not sure, I just used the original value in Mr Bambu's calc.

There's a new cloud density value?

 

[Andytrenom]

The decision was to use the original value for KE and CAPE but a different value for formation iirc.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

What about condensation though.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Ah nvm I understand I am supposed to just calc the mass of the water in the clouds, not the whole cloud.

What density should I use though?

 

[Andytrenom]

You are the calc guy, why are you asking me?

I think you are supposed to use this, Cloud Calculations

 

[DMB_1]

If you want a higher resolution, check this out video out:


LEGO NINJAGO Morro Strikes "Ghost Whip" Season 5, 2015-0

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I missed the storm revisions. I thought it was just about not applying storms to physical strength.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

https://youtu.be/UKFHY4IaM18

Starts at 2:25 if it helps.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I missed the storm revisions. I thought it was just about not applying storms to physical strength.

Nah, we changed the Ke stuff too.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

So the cloud was 6.35e11 m^3. Cumulonimbus clouds are responsible for the majority of storms, which is 1-3 g/m^3 for liquid water content.

6.35e11 grams to 1.905e12 grams.

Low-end: 6.35e8*2264705 = 1.438087675e15, Large Town level

High-end: 1.905e9*2264705 = 4.314263025e15, Large Town level+

If we use the high-end it will be slightly higher than CAPE.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Nah, we changed the Ke stuff too.

I know

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Huh. Neat.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Well, I'm no Calc Group member, so maybe we should put it in a blog and have a evaluation?

 

[DMUA]

.0005 is condensation density

Me calculating using that got 171.854252550665 Kilotons, Large Town Level

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Um no. I used the value on the cloud calc page

 

[DMB_1]

Anywyays, I would like to have the result of that Volcano calc you previously proposed (which was never calculated though), which if it does scale to durability, it would scale to the Ninjas at full potential, to the Elemental Blades and to the Stone Army (if it gets a higher result, of course).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CCDbbI-RQs&feature=youtu.be

At 6:20

 

[DMUA]

Um no. I used the value on the cloud calc page

And it appears the cloud calc page might need a few more key details cause

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2075114#47

 

[Yobo_Blue]

''Suffering intensifies''

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Can I bring up a few other things?

 

[DMB_1]

Do as you please.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

So, I think its time to get rid of 5-B for the god tiers. We used it as a lowball back in Season 8 when things were unclear, but season 9 has come and gone and we've got explicit confirmation of the realm having been FSM's creation. It should probably just be Low 2-C

 

[DMUA]

You mean High 3-A

 

[DMB_1]

You mean 10-C

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Not anymore really. That really came from the 5-B lowball.

 

[DMUA]

Ah okay

Yeah, that should be good.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I've got a few match ideas now

 

[DMB_1]

Can someone please calc the volcano thing, now that we're on topic, please?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

@Spino Typical cloud feats use 1.003 kg/m^3 because it interacts with the air itself. Condensation uses 0.5 g/m^3 (0.0005 kg/m^3) density as it only interacts with the water content in the cloud.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

So, DMUA's calc is good?