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Wuta420 said:
The Wright Way said:
Wuta420 said:
Nihilus stands there and finds out his mind control doesnt work then opts to commit suicide via lightsaber becasue he doesnt know that medaka has encounter
quite unlucky for nihilus
Nihilus stands there and finds out that his mind hax does work because Medaka's mind hax resistance can't resist Star Wars level mind hax. Burden of proof is on you.
nah the burden of proof is on the person that thinks continental characters can beat universe+ characters just because they used mind control on normal humans
You need proof that Medaka is universe level+ and that she can resist mind hax from a guy who regularly mind haxes people who resist mind hax that can affect entire planets worth of people on a daily baises. Show me a feat that shows that the Hero can stop instant mind hax that way outstrips anything Medaka has resisted.
 
The Wright Way said:
His mind hax is instant.
Cool, but is it Automatic? This does make a difference. Kumagawa (another user of this ability, and an inferior one at that) can use his ability to 'Blitz' people with instantaneous abilities. But automatic and instantaneous abilities he cannot blitz past
 
Kami95 said:
"The Hero" resisted 14 quadrillion of abilities used by a possibly higher dimensional character. Using it in vsthreads is ridicolous.
Without that it's either "Nihilus mindstomps" or "Medaka can counter mindhax and Nihilus gets haxstomped". It's unfair either way.
That's.. the epitome of fair. Both characters have an equally viable chance of winning. Nihilus is just faster to do so. Also the Hero isn't saving her from Star Wars level mind hax. Saying it does when it has no feats of it doing so is NLF.
 
Nihilus's mindhax is beyond anything Medaka has ever seen in her verse. Her resistance is useless.

This is literally Kratos (pre-upgrade) vs. Nihilus all over again.
 
Kami95 said:
"The Hero" resisted 14 quadrillion of abilities used by a possibly higher dimensional character. Using it in vsthreads is ridicolous.
Without that it's either "Nihilus mindstomps" or "Medaka can counter mindhax and Nihilus gets haxstomped". It's unfair either way.
I should clarify that it was Iihiko's abilities in combination with it. Just a nit pick, but it makes it more comparable to the current situation
 
Iapitus The Impaler said:
The Wright Way said:
His mind hax is instant.
Cool, but is it Automatic? This does make a difference. Kumagawa (another user of this ability, and an inferior one at that) can use his ability to 'Blitz' people with instantaneous abilities. But automatic and instantaneous abilities he cannot blitz past
It's automatic.
 
just saying that ajimu fodderizes star warsverse so if it works on her then it definitely works on this character
 
Wuta420 said:
just saying that ajimu fodderizes star warsverse so if it works on her then it definitely works on this character
Not if she can't resist that sweet, sweet, mind hax she doesn't. Also A>B>C logic isn't used on this site.
 
Kepekley23 said:
Nihilus's mindhax is beyond anything Medaka has ever seen in her verse. Her resistance is useless.
technically there are mental abilities that work above this level, but they are not the same kind of ability. Parasite seening's mind reading (and visual stealing) both comes from and works on Ajimu, tho it is not an inherently offensive ability so I assume you are going to fall back on that
 
Tier 1 character mind hax resistance > 3D mind control

unless you were saying that in the context of medaka
 
Iapitus The Impaler said:
Kepekley23 said:
Nihilus's mindhax is beyond anything Medaka has ever seen in her verse. Her resistance is useless.
technically there are mental abilities that work above this level, but they are not the same kind of ability. Parasite seening's mind reading (and visual stealing) both comes from and works on Ajimu, tho it is not an inherently offensive ability so I assume you are going to fall back on that
Do those abilities affect Quadrillions of people at once?
 
Wuta420 said:
just saying that ajimu fodderizes star warsverse so if it works on her then it definitely works on this character
if it works on Ajimu then Nihilus mind haxes her aswell
 
Do those abilities affect Quadrillions of people at once?

This isn't Sidious. This is Nihilus.
 
Shadowbokunohero said:
Wuta420 said:
just saying that ajimu fodderizes star warsverse so if it works on her then it definitely works on this character
if it works on Ajimu then Nihilus mind haxes her aswell
The point was higher d beings can't be mind based by 3-D's
 
The Wright Way said:
Not if she can't resist that sweet, sweet, mind hax she doesn't. Also A>B>C logic isn't used on this site.
Oh she definitely can. Considering she can make the conciousness non existant, as a single one of her mental abilities. This is derailing tho, I recommend you look over her skill list and understand why she is banned from matches on this wiki
 
Nihilus could scale to the galactic mind hax via the Helm is Ieldis, but it's speculatory.

He's still far superior to guys who can mind control 20 million+ people though.
 
Iapitus The Impaler said:
The Wright Way said:
Not if she can't resist that sweet, sweet, mind hax she doesn't. Also A>B>C logic isn't used on this site.
Oh she definitely can. Considering she can make the conciousness non existant, as a single one of her mental abilities. This is derailing tho, I recommend you look over her skill list and understand why she is banned from matches on this wiki
She's banned from matches because her tier is unknown. Not because she is over power. I can list quite a few characters way stronger than her.
 
Sidious would solo the verse. Even Nihilus likely would. Ajimu has nothing on that mindhax.
 
The Wright Way said:
That's.. the epitome of fair.
How? If Medaka's Encounter can counter his mindhax Nihilus has no chance of winning. If it can't Medaka has no chance of winning, since the mindhax is passive and acts before her skills.
 
lolololol sidious the hardstuck 3D fodder with solar system durability will use his limp wristed 3D mind control on a 1C transcendental abstract

cute star wars fans
 
The Wright Way said:
She's banned from matches because her tier is unknown. Not because she is over power. I can list quite a few characters way stronger than her.
Combination of both. I mean if you wanna pull up some high 1-As then be my guest, but I'm fairly sure this isn't a length measuring contest with fictional characters
 
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