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Natsu vs Cinder Fall ( Redux.)

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Seriously though, get that sand feat calced

And show me a scan of him eating ice

Otherwise neither of them are a factor in this fight
 
Who said Natsu eating ice? The closest thing was perhaps the fact he ate etherion which a combination of many elements, including ice.

Also, Vaporizing a 7-A attack is still a 7-A feats. Doesn't matter if his profile says different.
 
Natsu can eat any element. Even etherion which is toxic to humans.

Not that it matters the ice gon be melted just by natsu existing.
 
@Homu Yeah, i dont doubt that he could eventually break out of Cinder's ice, but he would be left vulnerable for at least a solid minute
 
Okay, now we're getting somewhere. If he gets hit with her ice its going to affect him and leave him open to attacks, if only for a minute or two. He'll be unable to defend himself from Cinder absorbing his magic or just killing him with her swords.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Okay, now we're getting somewhere. If he gets hit with her ice its going to affect him and leave him open to attacks, if only for a minute or two. He'll be unable to defend himself from Cinder absorbing his magic or just killing him with her swords.
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I recall LAS saying that the ice would melt before even touching Natsu, so him being frozen seems unlikely at best, but I dunno.
 
And what makes you think it will takes a minute for Natsu to break out Cinder Ice? He casually vaporized sands in base form.

And what makes you think Cinder will leads with Absorbstion or ice attack. She leads with fire or CQC. I could argue she even uses swords against Raven cuz Yang's mom has that swords all the time and decided it's foolish to take her on without weapons.
 
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@PaChi And then Homu posted a scan of Natsu being frozen before
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Projectiles Ice will surely melt within Natsu presence. But Invel froze Natsu the same fashion like Raven froze Cinder.

Although I'm pretty sure Raven requires to tag Cinder first in order to do that.
 
@Homu Because Raven, an ice specialist with enough skill in manipulating ice to be able to freeze a fire user like Cinder solid, needed almost a full minute to break free? And Raven on her own is stronger than Natsu will be at the beginning of the fight.

She lead with ice against Raven. She almost never uses fire offensively in combat anymore. In all of the times weve seen her fight post timeskip shes used swords, even against Jaune who she could casually oneshot.

Projectile or not he was still frozen
 
Well, I dont know if Ice manipulation makes it easier for someone to escape another's ice.
 
So for advantages, Cinder Basically has all at the beginning as her Grimm Arm has superior durability and possibly AP as well as apparent elasticity (at least able to extend itself) and now rarely uses fire for offensive purposes, true flight by her lonesome and ice manipulation able to freeze a master of the element ice. So, what's stopping her from freezing nastu and stabbing him with the Grimm arm or remake her obsidian arrow and stab 'em through the heart?
 
I don't think it's right to use invel freezing natsu as a argument here, invel's ice magic has shown to even make gray shiver from coldness. Gray is someone who has high resistance to cold and ice abilities, to make him shiver like that is not easy.

Also natsu's flames are no joke here, it has shown to melt a whole giant stedium from him casually releasing his magic. He also did the same thing when he got trapped in the sand, he released his flames and vaporized the sand around him.

I will not vote yet, gonna see if their is any good argument for cinder.
 
And Cinder's Ice was able to freeze Raven, who is a highly skilled ice manipulator who i stronger than Natsu

Cinder rarely if ever uses fire offensively in combat anymore, meaning she is going to have an AP advantage over Natsu, and she can absorb his magic just by touching him with her left hand
 
4:4

Cinder FRA

Now 5:4

Wait no....The Natsu votes are weird, I think Aizen might be the only one?
 
Whelp.

RIP One of Natsu's few wins.

Someone NEEDS to be a Dragon and ONLY use fire or he's screwed...
 
Speaking Natsu, should Human Acno (Post-ROT) and Natsu w/ combined dragon slayer magic be High 6-B? I wanna make a CRT, but I'm not sure about it.
 
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