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Nasuverse Discussion Board 26

All this discussion happen because someone ask how to watch fate anime......

And please read the CE's and Bond card, some of them have important info on lore.
 
ZERO7772 said:
Saying Kiritsugu character didn't get any develop us ridiculous, he did develop near the end but his character arc and story is just different than Shiru.
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Kiritsugu's "development" was him giving up on his ideals.

From the moment he killed Norikata to the moment he strangled the fake Irisviel to death, his chosen course of action never changed. It remained "kill the few to save the many". That's part of his tragedy, that even knowing the idea was flawed, he stuck to it because he had no idea what else he could do.
 
Which is still development.

Shirou in HF gives up his ideals in HF just to bang Shinji's leftover and people count that as "development"
 
ZERO7772 said:
Which is still development.
Shirou in HF gives up his ideals in HF just to bang Shinji's leftover and people count that as "development"
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Yeah not like that was the hardest thing to do right.

Not like Shirou actually flat out looked like he broke even further and starts crying when he realizes he can't follow his own ideal, in the movie at leat
 
Difference between Shirou and Kerry is that Shirou didn't just give it up, he replaced it.

HF Shirou gave up his ideals because he realized Sakura was more important than his guilt, and he followed through with that to his dying breath. Kiritsugu gave up his ideals and lived the rest of his life wallowing in regret.

The first was a turning-point, and we got to see the extent of Shirou's resolve to follow through with his new beliefs. The second was an ending, where we are made to understand the extent of Kiritsugu's emptiness to complete the tragedy of his story.
 
Yeah not like that was the hardest thing to do right.

Not like Shirou actually flat out looked like he broke even further and starts crying when he realizes he can't follow his own ideal, in the movie at leat

It takes a lot of give us actually, just ask Subaru from Re;Zero lol.

Doesn't chnage the fact he thrown his ideal and his father legacy for Shinji's leftover. Am I supposed to call that good writing cuz he cried in the moive?
 
>movie

And like that you've lost me

The F/SN movies and animes are really bad adaptations. Hell, even the F/Z anime was a bad adaptation, because all of them cut out the protagonists thoughts and inner monologues, which is where most of their character come from.
 
HEY HO FOOLIOS

Shouldn't we create profiles for Gray and Waver (not a servant)?

In fact, we need profiles for a good portion of Lord El-Melloi Case Files
 
Could you guys add pre-cognition to Ozy abilities as is says here in the novel. " At the same time. The Pharaoh Ozymandias who was calmly seated in the main temple, raised that right hand. Was it sure enough what was happening inside this great temple, it was obvious that what on earth he was aiming for was the trespassers, and it was clear as expected that he was coping with what must be carried out in this moment.

Quietly, coldly, the Pharaoh had a premonition of the battle's demise. Saber, Archer, and Lancer, who responded to the call of the shining great temple. Either way they were 3 resolute and daring knights, but this was the end. Indeed."
 
Nop.

He has no pre-cognition based ability or skill, this is mentioned nowhere else, and there's no indication he actually even knew how the battle ended. Unless there's some line further forward that shows he knew he would lose, or how, or anything.
 
During Olga Maries spell she said something like "Celestial bodies are hollow" something similar to that, but before that that Fate/Apoc Mordred's master dude/guy mentioned something about how Cars create some sort of pseduo space between the world of the living, and the underworld as if it was like some sort of dimensional travel. Too complex lol
 
Another try of Mahoyo translation, but it's not Japanese to English, but Japanese to French to English. So a translation of a translation.
 
Just want to ask about this one:

https://s4.********.org/data/b068d637d5f7f2ce4efe34a51834c531/b2.jpg

Just want to point this out since it's kinda left out for BB profile (the revision never finished...)
 
The "Julius uses Bisop Staff of Rulership to hide himself"? Well, it was kinda included as Stealth Mastery (BB once hid herself from the Mooncell's detection when making BBB)
 
I mean the power of the staff itself. Since just a mere replica was already that strong, and even would make a human breaks down on physical and spiritual level just by wielding it.
 
Im also surprise they dont have it, even though both have corruption as justification of they're ability. I think a lot of profiles would be affected by this because most of the servant got resistance base on Tiamat.

Only Sakura have corruption. Kiritsugu, Kirei, Rin and Shirou would likely get corruption resistance.

There's also abosorbtio resistance, base on servant not being affected by Blood fort andromeda. And the masters in FSN.

This need a massive revision.
 
Well, their resistance would be medium at best. Because Sakura shadow corruption is high enough that it's instant death for most Servants, but a bit less effective for anti heroes type, but her absorbtion is insta kill for all kind of Servants and spirits. Servants and magi still affected by Andromeda, but on much less extent than regular humans
 
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