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But he gains any Noble Phantasm owned by a hero after him retroactively?Solacis said:
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Tier list was updated and new graphics. Left is for Difficult content and Right for farming.
https://appmedia.jp/fategrandorder/96261
https://appmedia.jp/fategrandorder/96261
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>Amakusa in S
>Jalter in A+
Wew......
>Sche in A+,far higher than Xuanzang
YAY!!!
>Jalter in A+
Wew......
>Sche in A+,far higher than Xuanzang
YAY!!!
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So should someone make a thread about Ea since some seem to agree with void thingy?
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Technically, no. He owns their physical or spiritual prototype. It's stated in the VN that Gram was Caliburn's predecessor as "a sword of selection". In that respect, Gram doesn't necessarily have the abilities of Caliburn despite being its predecessor (clause 1), although as a human invention, he has a nameless sword that does have the abilities of Caliburn (clause 2).Monarch Laciel said:
That's why I made it a point to mention that the clauses are separate.
Gilgamesh doesn't retroactively gain NPs of heroes that succeed him. He already owns the prototypes that the NPs were originally based on or built from. But in the event that - because of the limitations of this clause - he doesn't have an NP with a specific ability, if the NP he doesn't have just happens to also be made by humans, a prototype of something with its abilities is retroactively added to Gilgamesh's vault. Said retroactively-added prototype wouldn't be an NP, afaik, but it would possess the same abilities to varying extents.
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Whoa whoa whoa, what did I miss?! I know I haven't been keeping up with JP for months but how did Amakusa jump from bottom of the barrel to top-tier?Veloxt1r0kore said:
EDIT: OK, this has to be bullshit. How the **** is Arturia and Okita in the same tier?!
EDIT 2: Using the power of Google Translate, they seem to only take into consideration their skills, and none of their hidden stats, hit counts or even base attack. Their only argument for bringing Okita down so low is that her skillset barely contributes to team comp, when her whole schtick is generating and using crit stars, something she does outside of her skills.
My waifu will not be treated like this, I'm filing a complaint.
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Hey guys. Anyone get the same problem I do with the support list in-game? It only shows like 1-2 friends at any given time, and sometimes, even zero friends and like 2 non-friend supports.
It's annoying because I have to refresh some 7 times before I even get the supp I need.
It's annoying because I have to refresh some 7 times before I even get the supp I need.
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Did you use a filter to only show Servants with Event bonus?
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I'm lacking friends with the Mashu/Ushiwakamaru CE, everyone's either got the Raikou CE or the Sumo CE.
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And just like that it became a FGO thread OvO
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FGO gameplay is deepest lore.
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2 years for Majin Seibaa the wait begins *starts sweating*
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@Gemmy
Well we were talking about void manipulation for Gil and apparently he even BFRs so that's a thing.
Oh and the clauses of GoB were disscussed
Well we were talking about void manipulation for Gil and apparently he even BFRs so that's a thing.
Oh and the clauses of GoB were disscussed
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Void manipulation is not a thing. The Void is like the space between world layers.
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It's from the "BB couldn't do anything to him" thing.Reppuzan said:
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@Ram
That's still a void though. So Gil could trap people in the space between these layers if he wanted to? Or if he REALLLY wanted to trap them in the hellish origin if he wanted them like gone gone?
That's still a void though. So Gil could trap people in the space between these layers if he wanted to? Or if he REALLLY wanted to trap them in the hellish origin if he wanted them like gone gone?
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Also the "broke out of the far side when the Moon Cell wanted to keep him there"
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No not really it's just empty space between the world layers which he doesn't control. If he got Void Manipulation from that we might as well give anyone that tears through space void manipulation.
Enuma Elish's drills into layers to show the Truth(the Primordial World that's basically hell), so essentially whenever he blasts you with the full power space-time dislocation he is trying to send you to hell as you die. He doesn't do it to trap people, and he can't trap them in the "Void" as Ea goes beyond that and shows the Truth.
Enuma Elish's drills into layers to show the Truth(the Primordial World that's basically hell), so essentially whenever he blasts you with the full power space-time dislocation he is trying to send you to hell as you die. He doesn't do it to trap people, and he can't trap them in the "Void" as Ea goes beyond that and shows the Truth.
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Ahhhhh ok tyty.
So essentially if Enuma Elish doesn't kill them they'll end up trapped there anyway as the layers of the world start reforming. Is this not also worthy of an addition to his profile though?
So essentially if Enuma Elish doesn't kill them they'll end up trapped there anyway as the layers of the world start reforming. Is this not also worthy of an addition to his profile though?
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I'm referring to its potential to BFR
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Dunno since no one has been trapped there before. People usually die from it or they block it with equal power like with Enkidu's Enuma Elish which also sews the world back together. Avalon cancels all interference so it didn't work there either.
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So I had a thought
Servants are given magical shells which are sustained by the mana of the master correct?
Does that mean that Kiritsugu could use his origin to basically one-shot any servant who doesn't have independent action? Because he'd hit them, and through their magically sustained shells, would destroy the magic circuits their master is using to keep them in the world.
Servants are given magical shells which are sustained by the mana of the master correct?
Does that mean that Kiritsugu could use his origin to basically one-shot any servant who doesn't have independent action? Because he'd hit them, and through their magically sustained shells, would destroy the magic circuits their master is using to keep them in the world.
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Assuming it actually hit them and got the origin effect off.
Or that it was Assassin Emiya using Phantasm Punishment
Or that it was Assassin Emiya using Phantasm Punishment
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@Ram
So then it isn't a reliable reason Gil would win vs Medaka
So then it isn't a reliable reason Gil would win vs Medaka
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That's my interpretation of what happens to people that could block Enuma Elish or survive it. Nothing contradicts it so I think it can be used as an argument, but that's up to the people in the thread to decide.
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Huh. Alrighty.
I know it isn't in character but is Gil trapping people in the treasury also a valid argument?
I know it isn't in character but is Gil trapping people in the treasury also a valid argument?
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