Yes but still kakuzu's domu is problem as it was able to tank yugito's bijuu bomb/fire ball
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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Even if it's a one time sasuke still saw it's capability and that is why he said kaguya who nearly destroyed the world and it was one time use because the person who used di*d not because it's actually one time use ability and that is the only thing we never seen it can be absorbed, kaguya was preparing herself to the stronger threat and she made white zetsu, we know In front of momoshiki and kinshiki the ninjutsu is useless and because of kinshiki the physical strength is useless unless the character is as strong or fast as kinshiki while white zetsu got stomped by kcm1 Naruto, neji, sakura, akamaru and others who are not even hashirama level while kinshiki and momoshiki are likes of kaguya, juubi-madara and team 7 in war arc so momoshiki and kinshiki don't have advantage of hax and physical status but they are tiers above white zetsu and don't forget kaguya can absorb the 100000 white zetsu to create another ETSO any time
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Yes I know the dimension kaguya was going to destroy is her main dimension and that doesn't mean she can't do the same to the shinobi world, bro that's why she suggested to fight team 7 in her dimension because she loves the earth but that's not matter but the stronger threats don't like the earth so there's nothing prove that they will try to not destroy the world
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Except for the fact that Naruto would never allow this
He spared the life of the shin clones
Not to talk of a clone that looks like his son
This goes against the narrative behind the otsutsuki
They would absolutely hold off on destroying earth until they can get the chakra fruit
Especially when the potential yield from earth's chakra fruit is greater than the norm
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That was the first instance when Naruto first got to the field, and in that case, BZ didn’t do anything. The 2nd instance was when Naruto tried to Dash attack him with FRS like he did Third Raikage. That’s when BZ caught him with Mokuton.
Not the Parasite ability. Obito has no hearing on that ability.
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I disagree. Naruto was gonna allow Kawaki to do it for Amadou with Akebi.
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Agreed but the difference here is sasuke isn't an otsutsuke and he doesn't know anything about chakra fruit except that kaguya already ate and by consuming the chakra tree the character can perform the infinite tsukiyomi besides that he doesn't know anything else until he saw that there's another juubi and Amado's explanation
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My brother I am not trying to debate him about the physics but the feat itself, the beam of light sliced the moon and we see the beam went through the moon faster than the two halves of the moon could react, for example base teen spsm Naruto's lava rasinshuirken sliced the chakra tree, Edo madara slicing the mountains
The conservation of energy was described like this
The law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant; it is said to be conserved over time In the case of a closed system, the principle says that the total amount of energy within the system can only be changed through energy entering or leaving the system. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another. For instance, chemical energy is converted to kinetic energy when a stick of dynamite explodes. If one adds up all forms of energy that were released in the explosion, such as the kinetic energy and potential energy of the pieces, as well as heat and sound, one will get the exact decrease of chemical energy in the combustion of the dynamite.
Classically, the conservation of energy was distinct from the conservation of mass. However, special relativity shows that mass is related to energy and vice versa by E=mc2
, the equation representing mass–energy equivalence, and science now takes the view that mass-energy as a whole is conserved. Theoretically, this implies that mass can itself be converted to energy, and vice versa. However, this is believed to be possible only under the most extreme of physical conditions, such as likely existed in the universe very shortly after the Big Bang or when black holes emit Hawking radiation.Given the stationary-action principle, the conservation of energy can be rigorously proven by Noether's theorem as a consequence of continuous time translation symmetry; that is, from the fact that the laws of physics do not change over time.
A consequence of the law of conservation of energy is that a perpetual motion machine of the first kind cannot exist; that is to say, no system without an external energy supply can deliver an unlimited amount of energy to its surroundings.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy#cite_note-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> Depending on the definition of energy, the conservation of energy can arguably be violated by general relativity on the cosmological scale.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy#cite_note-Energy_Is_Not_Conserved-3"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a> In quantum mechanics, Noether's theorem is known to apply to the expected value, making any consistent conservation violation provably impossible, but whether individual conservation-violating events could ever exist or be observed is subject to some debate.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy#cite_note-quanta-mag-4"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a>
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"Having inherited the will of Otsutsuki Isshiki, Code bares his fangs at Konoha for the sake of his mission and revenge.He utilizes his own abilities to increase the power of the Ten Tails."
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This Month's BORUTO
"If it were Naruto, he would make a move to fight against the Shinju (God Trees).
Shikamaru, the strategist, says, "I wouldn't resort to such a method... but it's different. This situation has surpassed human intelligence, and we need a solution."
They are dealing with a mission in the Land of Wind, and despite the complications, things are progressing.
Kawaki, in his quest for power, is planning to take action, but it’s unclear what exactly he'll do."
"If it were Naruto, he would make a move to fight against the Shinju (God Trees).
Shikamaru, the strategist, says, "I wouldn't resort to such a method... but it's different. This situation has surpassed human intelligence, and we need a solution."
They are dealing with a mission in the Land of Wind, and despite the complications, things are progressing.
Kawaki, in his quest for power, is planning to take action, but it’s unclear what exactly he'll do."
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Konohamaru vs Code vs Kawaki in taking Ls?
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I think he's High Kage level for scaling to Mei and somewhat to a KCM clone
Wonder what the Juubito>Shinju Ego people are gonna say about this"Having inherited the will of Otsutsuki Isshiki, Code bares his fangs at Konoha for the sake of his mission and revenge.He utilizes his own abilities to increase the power of the Ten Tails."
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People actually thought this?
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You have no idea the lengths people will go to maintain the Boruto fraud agendaPeople actually thought this?
like I explicitly spell it out in that thread. Thank you and good day
Ghostimuscrime
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What does deceived do other than meatride Arc
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Pass meaningful Naruto threads and get tier 4 Naruto accepted idkWhat does deceived do other than meatride Arc
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Ive been waiting for a statement like this for so long because its hilariously obvious that Ten Tails was Fodder and "Jigen Amped Ten Tails" is a weird thing never mentioned in the Manga nor would it matter because code is > Ten Tails anyway"Having inherited the will of Otsutsuki Isshiki, Code bares his fangs at Konoha for the sake of his mission and revenge.He utilizes his own abilities to increase the power of the Ten Tails."
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Make better CRTs than you is one, and the other is making a mean burrito.What does deceived do other than meatride Arc
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So like how strong are they though?"Having inherited the will of Otsutsuki Isshiki, Code bares his fangs at Konoha for the sake of his mission and revenge.He utilizes his own abilities to increase the power of the Ten Tails."
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Cho-Cho oneshot victims, but i guess thats not saying much since shes nearly 10 times stronger then EMS Madara
realistically the fodder ones are like Jonnin level except for that single rinnegan one which was strong enough to Slam Base Kawaki on the Ground but idk if it did damage.
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They're able to survive blows from Base Kawaki and Sarada so they're pretty powerful
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Did any of them actually tank a blow from Sarada? I guess they didnt explode when she hit them but did any get hit and come back up
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Yeah. The one that Code comes out of is the one that Sarada kicked away. Tank probably isn't the right word but it did take the kick and get back up like it was nothing.
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Your analogy doesn’t quite work here. Usain Bolt’s ‘fastest’ is tied to a formally measured and fixed record, while Ay4’s ‘fastest punch’ is a contextual statement, referencing the moment of his fight with Minato. There’s nothing in the narrative to suggest his speed remained constant or that he was referencing his current absolute top speed. Instead, Ay4 is acknowledging Minato’s achievement in their past encounters, and it doesn’t invalidate the possibility that his speed improved after that event.
Even in Usain Bolt’s case, his top speed at different points in his life was not constant. For example, Bolt broke the world record in May 2008 and then broke it again in August 2008. That May 2008 record has now been broken six times, three of which were by Bolt himself. Bolt’s fastest speed continued to improve, and he set another record in August 2009, a full year later. This demonstrates that even for an athlete like Bolt, his ‘fastest’ changes over time, depending on his training and performance. Applying this logic to Ay4, it’s reasonable to assume that his speed could have improved after his early encounters with Minato, making his statement about Minato’s feat contextual rather than an absolute measure of his top speed.
No that is not an absolute factual statement, war is not the only reason people engage in combat (Also sparring is a real thing). However, regardless of whether or not they fought as kages, you can't disprove the fact that they fought several times than the initial first encounter. Which proves my point that A4 had several encounters with Minato to test out their speed.
Then you agree that he at least got faster even if it is just reaction speed(Mind you he can even augment his reflexes with LCM stated in the same scan). The Ay that fought Minato in the very first encounter does not have reaction speed on par with Minato.
3rd Raikage’s, Jonins and Ay boxed with Gyuki and he was suppressed before he could harmed. Didn’t minato run away from Biju bombs until later in the war when he created the rasengan. But somehow you want Jonin Ay from at least 10 years ago to somehow scale to Ay as Raikage ?Well he did box with Gyuki and would've been stronger than Bee at the time (who had seemingly attained Bijuu Mode and was just working on his Bijuudamas) considering he became Raikage, so it wouldn't be inconsistent
The flowing hair in that image is similar to the image below when he used V1 against Naruto but I digress.His headband is stopping it from flowing fully, you can see that the sides of his hair are still flowing which they don't in V1 afaik
Also, I don't know why you keep acting like Ay was some kid at the time and is only an adult in Shippuden. He was almost 30 during the war
Ay being almost 30 does not change the fact that he could still get stronger and Faster…..
No you can’t do that. That is fraud, you can’t separate a statement that scales V1 LCM~ Regular speed KCM and then use that to upscale Yellow flash > V2 LCM, when it is literally a statement in the same breath. It says and I quote, “A god like speed that also catches up with Naruto in Tailed Beast chakra mode, and even praised to be as fast as the "Yelow Flash",”
He never caught up to Naruto when he used his top speed, which he did only once. So no you can’t have your Cake and eat it too.
No no no no no no no. Jonin minato scales to KCM regular speed along with V1 Ay not KCM top speed. Suppressed V2 how suppressed was he? Why should Bee in any way or form scale to a Raikage that was hold back. Because someone like Jigen is in K2 stage does not mean he is using 100 percent of his power. Naruto can be in SPCT mode and still not use 100 percent of its actual power and speed every time, he can use 5, 10, 15 up to unto 100 in that same mode. Bee even said later on brother is at top power, meaning the earlier times he was just joking around with bee while he was in the V2 mode.
How can base Bee be stronger and faster than the Bee that did double lariat with the Raikage’s when he was in 8 tails chakra mode that was also enhanced by samehada? I digress
what is bad with Sage mode Jugo and 3T chidori Sasuke having reactions speed on that level? The problem is we treat characters as going 100 percent every time when they can go 1-100…. Why should Bee use 100 percent speed when he know that he can beat them at 50 or less. In fact we know he was indeed Holding back has he could have entered V2 state use his top speed and literally blitz all of them. Suigetsu could react to him in V1 earlier on in the fight, while in the same chapter when Jugo got a power up that amps his speed, suigetsu talks about how fast V1 Raikage’s was moving, the same suigetsu that could blitz him before his attack landed on sasuke prior.
This is my suggestion on solving the scaling issue. Top speed KCM Naruto is faster than Jonin minato
KCM naruto top speed > Adult V2 Raikage top speed> Adult V1 Raikage ~ KCM Naruto regular speed ~ Yellow Flash > Jonin Raikage top speed
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"get tier 4 naruto accepted" and its using ****ing shibaiPass meaningful Naruto threads and get tier 4 Naruto accepted idk
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Chocho > Base sarada, oh, oh no, no , no , oh my god no, oh my
10.4 Zettatons x 100 = ~1 Yottaton
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Doubt anyone else here could"get tier 4 naruto accepted" and its using ****ing shibai
so great
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uh huh, he proposed 5B which got encouraged into 4B, mostly cuz people have a boner for scaling shibai above everything in the verse prior which included etso that was established at tier 4 by the hard working naruto supportersDoubt anyone else here could
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Yottatons in my Naruto?!
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Base Sarada (and Chocho) is still 6-C/6-B. She doesn't physically scale to the GT's yet, Hidari casually blocked her Chakra Enhanced Kick. Her Raiton does tho, she hurt Hidari with Chidori and Stream.
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No, he proposed a tier 4 rating. Stay mad
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The day she hurts hidari with a punch to the face is going to be legendary for the Cho cho Agenda
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Your thinking on this is flawed unfortunately.
Code having his Limiters removed and amping the Ten-tails isn’t a commentary on anything dealing with Jigen as Jigen is weaker than him anyways.
We have no idea how strong that Ten-tails is compared to Jigen and it doesn’t matter if it’s stated when it’s literally shown to us.
So a “Juubi Amped Jigen” can’t be written off by this statement.
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Need Chocho to have a 1v1 with Jura and win
