Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[MasqueTLDF]

Fun fact is that a lot of verses would crumble if they got the Naruto treatment

manifesting clear skies and positive vibes, dxd does not need the treatment naruto gets on here man

 

[KingogKings777]

Fun fact is that a lot of verses would crumble if they got the Naruto treatment

Naruto fans and victim complex, two peas in a pod.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

manifesting clear skies and positive vibes, dxd does not need the treatment naruto gets on here man

lmaooo dxd would get kicked into tier 6 out of pity if that happened

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

So the scaling for Part 1 Sasuke (No CSM) is:

1. LoW - > 10% Zabuza
2. CE - > Weightless Rock Lee w/ Sharingan & Chidori
3. SRA - > Pt. 1 Kakashi w/ 3TM (Due to Kn0 Scaling)

 

[MinatoSparkle]

1st isn't accepted but others yes

 

[Samlex1234]

Because of the statements that are in relation to WA Ay...? The databook is saying current LCM Ay is relative to the Yellow Flash and Ay's statement is clearly implying that he's only the fastest cause Minato isn't around. Also tbh I wouldn't be surprised if Ay didn't get that much faster (strength is irrelevant to the argument) since he compared his top speed back then to his top speed now, likening Naruto's feat to Minato's in the past.

Yeah no, Ay never compared his Top speed back then to his top speed Now. He only said “you only the second to have ever outrun my fastest punch”. Minato dodging his top speed in their very first encounter when we know that they continue to clash with each other many times after that very incident does not mean his top speed remained constant and never changed.



Minato even said the next time we meet, we will be fighting as kages.


Raikage goes on to say they fought several times after their first encounter. Meaning they most likely fought as kages. With Kage Minato still being faster than his top speed as a kage. Hence him saying Minato was the only one faster than him when he was alive. However, that was 16 years ago.



When Ay was using V1 in the fight against Team Taka, his V1 mode was started to be on par with the Yellow Flash. However, Note the statement “there is still” because we will call back to it. Later on as the fight progressed and Sasuke used MS, then we see AY ramped up his LCM form again, this stage is called the V2, in this state his chakra is at Biju level. He never used this the first time he fought Minato. Unless you want to say Jonin A4 who fought Minato has Biju-level chakra, but I digress.


Further evidence, notice his hair is not spiking up as much in this fight. Suggesting he possibly didn't have the V2 at this age.


Those statements were for V1 Raikage

The Data book statement does not cap Raikage V2 to be only relative to the yellow flash. It says specifically,

“It could overtake even naruto in his tailed beast charkra mode and it boasts a god-like speed, not inferior even to the Yellow Flash"

Notice it says over take Naruto in KCM then it showed there earlier interactions when he was in V1, however later when he used V2 he was blitzed by Naruto Top speed.

Meaning KCM naruto top speed > Adult V2 Raikage top speed> Adult V1 Raikage top speed ~ KCM Naruto regular speed ~ Yellow Flash > Jonin Raikage top speed

Also I'm fine with V2 Ay's Lariat being relative to Jonin Minato, but the Lariat DB statement is about the technique in general, which was used by V1 Bee/V1 Ay primarily.

Again this is what I have a problem with, Double lariat does not have a Static Ap and Speed. That scan was making reference to the Double lariat that Adult Raikage in V1 and Samehada enhanced 8 tail cloaked Bee used against Kisame. You have to be relative in strength and speed to use double lariat, which would make Adult V1 Raikage ~ Enhanced 8-tail cloaked Bee at that moment.

https://imgur.com/a/YFfzy5O

Even young bee and Ay can use Double lariat. This double lariat can not be the same speed and strength as the one used against kisame, even Ay had to tone down his own strength any time they used it when much younger.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

1st isn't accepted but others yes

What was the main argument against it again?

 

[ssgengar]

Oh boy

 

[MinatoSparkle]

What was the main argument against it again?

That it's not consistent (it would make Chunin level characters relative to and each individual Sound 4 member much stronger than Zabuza) and in the LoW Kishimoto was still ironing things out

Oh boy

This in response to my declaration or Neo?

 

[garp2]

Because when calculating something’s KE you need the speed of that something. The moon’s KE is the MOON’s speed squared times half the moon’s mass.

That's not what I meant, where is the speed and KE of Toneri's attack needs to slice the moon in half? The calculation just determines only the side effects of Toneri's attack not the attack itself

 

[Damage3245]

That's not what I meant, where is the speed and KE of Toneri's attack needs to slice the moon in half? The calculation just determines only the side effects of Toneri's attack not the attack itself

How would you find a mass for Toneri's attack?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

That's not what I meant, where is the speed and KE of Toneri's attack needs to slice the moon in half? The calculation just determines only the side effects of Toneri's attack not the attack itself

As repeatedly stated in that thread, conservation of energy. We don't need the speed or anything of Toneri's sword. Since the KE of the moon splitting apart derives itself entirely from the energy of Toneri's sword swing. Aka Toneri's sword swing's energy (AP in this case) MUST be at least equal to the moon KE from the calc.

 

[JohnHendrix212]

On that note, what is the size or what percentage of the moon is currently accepted as hollow on here?