Not exactly but I can see how it can be interpreted that way
Idk if you're joking or not but i'm talking about Guy and Kakashi scaling to 30% of Itachi and Kisame's chakra
Naruto Conceptual Manipulation Addition
This should be a pretty simple thread with the evidence at hand. Rinnegan users should have Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2), Life Manipulation, and Death Manipulation. The argument is as follows, the Rinnegan is stated to transcend the very concepts of Life and Death, and because of this...vsbattles.com
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First Gaara fight from Team 7, Gaara vs Sasuke.
Are you planning a content revision for this? I'm asking because it would affect almost every profile from the verse, so I don't think it would be appropriate to add this for the Raikage alone without it being accepted first.Not exactly but I can see how it can be interpreted that way
For them to use nature transformations, they must be super knowledgeable on how said element (lightning, fire, etc) works
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Not just nature transformations. Any jutsu at all. Which is impressive when you consider the existence of complex techniques like particle style
"Exluding Naruto" bro's the outlier
Not any time soon tbh
So the 30% scaling is coming back?Here you go.
It’s rewind time (Naruto Revisions Part 3: Kirin, finally)
Remember how we downgraded Naruto to 7-C a while back? Surprise, they’re going right back to 7-B now! We finally have a new calc for Kirin, we have a new version of Sasuke’s Katon calc, and some scaling changes to go with them. And before anyone asks, Sasuke’s Katon scaling to Kirin was already...You picked a curious time to ask about it tho, cause by the looks of things, this stuff will change soon.
Mayhaps.
Highly doubt thatSpeaking of the 30% Scaling, wouldn’t it be 30% of Itachi and Kisame’s Chakra ONTOP of the people’s chakra they were controlling? Dude seemed like he was top 5 in Suna…
Nvm, I changed my mind
Nvm, I changed my mind
Ideally, but unlikelySpeaking of the 30% Scaling, wouldn’t it be 30% of Itachi and Kisame’s Chakra ONTOP of the people’s chakra they were controlling? Dude seemed like he was top 5 in Suna…
Control Jutsu?
The 30% Jutsu from Pain.
One particular part or the whole page?
I agree with this but even if one counted the hosts power its probably insignificant in contrast
Whole page I guess. I just want to know if it overwrites the victim or not and not additive.
Not necessarily. It would mean that we can’t simply say Kakashi and Guy only scale to 30% Itachi & Kisame because it’s 30% of their power ontop of a whole ass elite Ninja. And Iirc, Yura is one of the top Jonin in Suna.
Couldn't Guy and Kakashi just have an "At Least" in the Tier they scale to the 30% Clones?
Trust me, considering where Itachi and Kisame will probably end up scale, the host body's power will be super negligible.
I think “likely higher” would be better here and they were still highly competitive with Kakashi and Guy. “At Least” carries the connotation that it’s a lower bench for them, if that makes sense?
Well, yeah
For stamina purposes, it would matter bc it would mean the Clone wouldn’t be “fatigued”. If that makes sense, just a lesser version of Itachi.
I doubt this is the case. If Itachi was simply fatigued and fighting, emphasis wouldn’t have been placed on the clone. If the Jutsu was a true 100% overwrite, there is no emphasis on the clone bc nothing they did would show through. Ntm, Itachi straight told him he couldn’t use MS atm.
What's wrong with that? Why not combine both then?
Nobody laid emphasis on the clone
The narrative laid emphasis on the clone by having Kakashi voice he noticed something off after they all discovered it was a clone.
Refer above.
Yes, that’s the mechanic of the Jutsu. It doesn’t also imply the host plays mo factor in the strength of the clone either.
Not necessarily true. The Jutsu’s mechanism could just result in that. For example, Orochimaru’s Immortal Jutsu that allows him to take over the body of another doesn’t expressly say the host body gives him any benefit either outside of giving him access to their abilities, but what we know based on how the verse works, Orochimaru’s is only transferring his Yin Chakra / Consciousness and suppressing the Yin Chakra & Consciousness of those he takes. Their Physicals & Yang Chakra still play a part in how strong or not Orochimaru becomes.
Interesting that you brought this up.
Yeah, like, I did the math and with the new values someone like Yura won't even amount to 0.1% of people like Itachi, Kisame, Kakashi, etc.
Ah, so 0.09% for fodder/background peeps then gotcha
What? The difference between Kakashi tiers (50-ish Megatons) and baseline Jonin (where Yura would be if he had a profile) is well over 1000x. It's even higher for people like Kisame and Itachi.
Something else you discovered?
Ah fair, I thought you meant the difference between Kakashi and elite jonin tier would become more than 1000x, which doesn't really make sense since that's what he currently scales to
