Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[Shadowbokunohero]

If someone is far above someone else overall, I don't think it's far fetched to scale them far above in one of, if not the most fundamental stat

you can be holistically above someone without every stat being a qualifier to be above them

Clashed w Boruto

boruto reacted to him while being mostly stationary, had his attack reacted to by Konohamaru who should be below the likes of Code, given Code was considered this insane standard prior to Boruto showing up.

Hidari also barely moves out of the way of a inferior Kawaki

not saying Hidari cant be faster but theres nothing to suggest a massive gap in speed.

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

It's so fun and exciting and has great characters, the visuals and music are great too

In my opinion, Naruto has better music, character designs, character writing, and comedy.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

It's outright stated that Hidari is out of Code's league holistically

I don't really think this statement means that each individual Shinju is >>> Code in stats, given that it's talking about them as a group. Eida didn't really single Hidari out here. (Obviously Jura is an exception, but we didn't know that at the time)

And really, when you look at the showings, I believe this notion is well supported. Boruto thought Code could be good back-up for him against them, which wouldn't make a whole lot of sense if he was significantly slower than them.

Add to that the fact that Code literally reacted to Hidari himself, and wasn't really shown to be all that inferior to Boruto (who's relative to Hidari) even in base without his Karma, and I just don't see how someone like Hidari is significantly above Code in speed. It's an arbitrary assumption as you don't even need to be faster than someone to be superior to them, let alone be much faster. You could argue he's like >~ Code, but I don't see >> being a thing. At worst, he should be up there with his Karma.

 

[SlendVeny]

I don't understand why you were surprised when I said Pain Arc>DBZ. DBZ seems so boring to me that I started 2 years ago and still haven't finished it. I'm currently in Buu Saga and I still think it's a mid or below mid series.

Note: I didn't watch Naruto or Dragon Ball when I was a kid. I don't have any childhood love for either series.

Not liking the Buu Saga is an early sign of a nearly incurable condition.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

W pfp by the way, TWEWY is my childhood goat

Want to add the verse to the wiki but it's taken some time.

 

[KingogKings777]

The post literally said paneling, no one mentioned the anime.

I don't read DB manga.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

And really, when you look at the showings, I believe this notion is well supported. Boruto thought Code could be good back-up for him against them, which wouldn't make a whole lot of sense if he was significantly slower than them.

Code in that panel like "Yeah, they'll kill me to, but hey, I'm not gonna be the one to die first! Who's the fraud now!!!" ~ Code as he runs away.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

God, I wish this part of the battle wasn't in a Genjutsu...

 

[SlendVeny]

Boruto

 

[LordGriffin1000]

God, I wish this part of the battle wasn't in a Genjutsu...

Well it's not like they can't do all those fancy moves in reality.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Well it's not like they can't do all those fancy moves in reality.

True, they definitely can. I just wish I could use some of the feats performed in the Genjutsu for scaling.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

I don't understand why you were surprised when I said Pain Arc>DBZ. DBZ seems so boring to me that I started 2 years ago and still haven't finished it. I'm currently in Buu Saga and I still think it's a mid or below mid series.

Note: I didn't watch Naruto or Dragon Ball when I was a kid. I don't have any childhood love for either series.

I watched DB+DBZ as a kid, enjoyed it immensely
watched naruto in 2022

and still have naruto on top

This is either crazy Naruto glazing or DB downplaying

heh
DBZ is a good 7~8 /10 series if you wanna turn off your brain and see people throw hands

 

[Gokukid2005]

God, I wish this part of the battle wasn't in a Genjutsu...

Man Kishimoto is so good at drawing fights
Ikemoto is too but more in a dragon ball way and less of Naruto if that makes sense
Ike’s flow of action is pretty good, his lack of line variety at least in part 1 rlly held him back

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

it's more fun to powerscale than naruto tho

 

[KaydeeX]

God, I wish this part of the battle wasn't in a Genjutsu...

Crazy how i prefer the manga fight paneling to the anime scene

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Crazy how i prefer the manga fight paneling to the anime scene

Yeah, it's excellent. Anime version's great too, though.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Freaking UchihaSlayer96 short on ranking the Akatsuki appeared on my recommendations. I was about to leave a goon message when I saw the meme for Hidan but redeemed yourself with Kisame, but then you hit mid for Konan and Tobi, but then you once again redeemed with White and Black Zetsu meme.

Overall give it an 8 out of 10. Would have been a 10/10 if you included their leader, the Ramen maker.

 

[KaydeeX]

Yeah, it's excellent. Anime version's great too, though.

Yeah both are nice
The anime scene of that fight is something i’d bring up to defend good choreography of the verse but if i really gotta pick my most preferable, it’ll be the Manga’s. Same thing i love about jjk manga, It’s aesthetically pleasing in a way not related to fine art, you could almost see them move at first glance lol.

 

[SlendVeny]

Zetsu

 

[KaydeeX]

Zetsu

Kiba

 

[SlendVeny]

Kiba

Shibi

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Yeah both are nice
The anime scene of that fight is something i’d bring up to defend good choreography of the verse but if i really gotta pick my most preferable, it’ll be the Manga’s. Same thing i love about jjk manga, It’s aesthetically pleasing in a way not related to fine art, you could almost see them move at first glance lol.

No, I agree. I prefer the manga version of that fight too. The anime adaptation was just really well-executed for Itachi vs Sasuke, which isn't always the case.

Kinda crazy that we got Jiraiya vs Pain and Itachi vs Sasuke back to back. We were so spoiled back then lol.

 

[KaydeeX]

Shibi

Akimiru

 

[SlendVeny]

Akimiru

New Era Hanabi

 

[KaydeeX]

New Era Hanabi

Susano on a horse

 

[SlendVeny]

Susano on a horse

Kokuo

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Wanna run something by ya'll.

Do we think Itachi tanked a Chidori here? Mainly cause bro was caught in midair and in the very next panel we see him being sent flying backwards, which wouldn't make much sense if he, like, dodged it or something. It's a weird exchange for sure, but the more I think about it, the more it seems like.....Itachi sorta tanked a Chidori, which is nuts lol.

 

[Damage3245]

Wanna run something by ya'll.

Do we think Itachi tanked a Chidori here? Mainly cause bro was caught in midair and in the very next panel we see him being sent flying backwards, which wouldn't make much sense if he, like, dodged it or something. It's a weird exchange for sure, but the more I think about it, the more it seems like.....Itachi sorta tanked a Chidori, which is nuts lol.

Is the anime any clearer?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Is the anime any clearer?

Sadly, it plays out the exact same IIRC. The one time I'd have liked for the anime to take some liberties, it chooses to be super faithful lol.

 

[ssgengar]

Wanna run something by ya'll.

Do we think Itachi tanked a Chidori here? Mainly cause bro was caught in midair and in the very next panel we see him being sent flying backwards, which wouldn't make much sense if he, like, dodged it or something. It's a weird exchange for sure, but the more I think about it, the more it seems like.....Itachi sorta tanked a Chidori, which is nuts lol.

Ehh I don’t know, Sasuke is descending with his Chidori. If it landed why would Itachi be flying upward like that

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Ehh I don’t know, Sasuke is descending with his Chidori. If it landed why would Itachi be flying upward like that

Uh, no, Sasuke was moving upwards to catch Itachi in the air (after forcing him to jump with a Fireball Jutsu). Look at the panel carefully, he was aiming at the ceiling.

 

[SlendVeny]

Wanna run something by ya'll.

Do we think Itachi tanked a Chidori here? Mainly cause bro was caught in midair and in the very next panel we see him being sent flying backwards, which wouldn't make much sense if he, like, dodged it or something. It's a weird exchange for sure, but the more I think about it, the more it seems like.....Itachi sorta tanked a Chidori, which is nuts lol.

Is clothing being unaffected by Chidori consistent with anything else?

 

[SlendVeny]

Is clothing being unaffected by Chidori consistent with anything else?

Personally, I think it looks like, from the position of his legs, he kicked off of something.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Is clothing being unaffected by Chidori consistent with anything else?

Yes, and that's where my crackpot theory comes into play......

See, I think he got hit in the face. Notice how his face is totally clean in the first page, and then in the second page it has a bunch of scuff marks?

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Wanna run something by ya'll.

Do we think Itachi tanked a Chidori here? Mainly cause bro was caught in midair and in the very next panel we see him being sent flying backwards, which wouldn't make much sense if he, like, dodged it or something. It's a weird exchange for sure, but the more I think about it, the more it seems like.....Itachi sorta tanked a Chidori, which is nuts lol.

could be done with his hands, the tanking that is, causing itachi to be sent back and then using hands later for the fire style

 

[SlendVeny]

Yes, and that's where my crackpot theory comes into play......

See, I think he got hit in the face. Notice how his face is totally clean in the first page, and then in the second page it has a bunch of scuff marks?

That could just be dust. I'm more of the opinion he kicked Sasuke's arm.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

That could just be dust. I'm more of the opinion he kicked Sasuke's arm.

Dust that's only placed on one side of his face rather than everywhere on his body?

Also, if he kicked Sasuke's arm, it'd redirect the Chidori downwards or sideways, which doesn't add up with the Chidori hitting its initial target (the ceiling). So idk about that.

 

[SlendVeny]

Dust that's only placed on one side of his face rather than everywhere on his body?

Both sides of his face, actually, which is the most exposed part of his body, and we don't see the rest of his body on that page.

Also, if he kicked Sasuke's arm, it'd redirect the Chidori downwards or sideways, which doesn't add up with the Chidori hitting its initial target (the ceiling). So idk about that.

hmmm... true. Any chance the chidori exploded without making direct contact with the ceiling?

 

[ssgengar]

Uh, no, Sasuke was moving upwards to catch Itachi in the air (after forcing him to jump with a Fireball Jutsu). Look at the panel carefully, he was aiming at the ceiling.

Ahh I was looking at the ceiling thinking it was the surface of the dome. Like as if they were already outside lol, myb

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Both sides of his face, actually, which is the most exposed part of his body,

This is actually true. I missed one side being scuffed. Mb.

and we don't see the rest of his body on that page.

No, we don't. But we do get a decent-ish look at him in the next chapter, and his cloak looked decently clean to me.

Granted, I don't think he 100% had to have taken it to the face. He may have blocked it with his hand and his face just got hit grazed by some of the Chidori's mini lightning branches or some of the debris when he was going through the ceiling. But I feel like he had to have gotten tagged here, at least partially.

You know what's super weird tho? Bro POSSIBLY tanks a Chidori, but gets damaged by a Shuriken lmao. That's wild.

hmmm... true. Any chance the chidori exploded without making direct contact with the ceiling?

That's just not how the Chidori works.