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Tbh I was gonna agree with your comment that Bleach doesn't really have well written women (at least not that better than Naruto aside from powerscaling purposes). But...
also shonen dont generally need to focus on female characters either way since they're targeting male audiences
This is a horrible rationale.
 
no lol
kishi clears pierrots poorly placed slop
if the anime didnt exist and people went with manga only there would be far less misinformation

although they did give the franchise the best animated fight scenes in all of anime so credit where its due
Said animation along with the incredible soundtrack clears the manga advantages I fear
manga is more consistent quality wise overall but its a case to case thing

kazekage rescue arc is absolutely awful in the anime, but the anime handles Hinata's sacrifice, Shikamaru grieving much better in contrast,but then again sakura's character is assassinated in the anime.

its kinda hard to compare them because of how different they are as mediums, outside of maybe grading how good of an adaption the anime is, which is only useful to contrast and doesnt say much about it as a piece of work for people who only experience the anime, which is the majority of how people experienced naruto.

in terms of individually, id say they both pretty great. the anime in particularly alongside Bleach are prob some of the most important and influential anime of the 21st century, pioneering and popularizing industry wide changes that would be adopted not only in other anime but animated films, it also cultivated and birthed some of the greatest animators who's influence can be felt in a lot of the high quality modern seasonal stuff.

but for my money, if you care purely about the story then ill always suggest going with the source material.
I somewhat agree, but I think the anime often tells the story better, or at least in a more moving way
 
you know that one filler soundtrack from naruto? that's what most episodes tend to feel like when they're slow paced.
 
Kishimoto can definitely write female characters well. I think specifically what he meant by he can't write them is just in the sense that some of the female related stuff he feels very awkward about doing them hence for example why he really praised ikemoto on how he does for sarada.


So karo if that's the case why is there not that much good female characters in bleach?
It's simple, he wasn't interested in females all that much so he wrote less of them. Like all the waste away female characters in Naruto were just irrelevant to the story. You can't say tsunade, Sakura, Hinata, kushina to mention a few are good female characters and turn around and say he can't write well.



Also when i hear people say Naruto did not do side characters well I get so confused coz what they should be saying is "konoha 12 " and not side characters
 
Jura gets mid-godly resurrection for being the Ten Tails.

Oh, we were talking about Naruto side characters.... Carry on
 
Also when i hear people say Naruto did not do side characters well I get so confused coz what they should be saying is "konoha 12 " and not side characters
Naruto fans when a SIDE character doesn't 1. get an entire arc dedicated to them, 2. abruptly shifts focus of the story, and 3. have the relevance similar to the main characters: Wasted potential!!!

Most well written stories treat their side characters as tools to write an intricate story, and not the other way around.
 
and no cherrypicking a handful of women that arent sexual objects with boobs bigger than onigashima doesnt solve bleach's oversexualisation issue
Those characters aren't oversexualized, boobs exist irl, believe it or not.
coincidentally the characters you named mostly are bland characters with pitiful narratives,
You brought up KAGUYA.
 
Ghost literally can't help himself but to bring up Bleach in a thread specifically about Naruto.
I'll admit I was comparing Big 3 fanbases, but I just deeply don't care enough to argue sincerely about this topic. I've, of course, been coerced into doing so, however.
 
Bro thinks he's Nagato
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There's a popular theory that Code's an Uzumaki, and if it's true, then his ancestors are indeed rolling in their grave. Bro's giving them such a bad rep.

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Yeah Ion rlly think a lot of the female characters are bad in my opinion
Tsunade, Chiyo, Ino, Sakura - great
Konan, Temari and Hinata - needed more time/spotlight but aren't bad
Karin and Mei - Definitely need rewrites/actual development cause the seeds are there but not much is done with it
That's basically it
The rest are side characters I couldn't care less about how well they're written
 
Yeah Ion rlly think a lot of the female characters are bad in my opinion
Tsunade, Chiyo, Ino, Sakura - great
Konan, Temari and Hinata - needed more time/spotlight but aren't bad
Karin and Mei - Definitely need rewrites/actual development cause the seeds are there but not much is done with it
That's basically it
The rest are side characters I couldn't care less about how well they're written
What about Kushina?
 
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