No. Nothing has been accepted like that. It might be considered a soft cap for future attempts but it's definitely not a discussion rule yet. Everyone is open to make good arguments just like they are to debunk them.
not an actual thread, but its one reason why further upgrade attempts to shippuden god tiers aren't being accepted for now
Damn, Arc teamed up with HADES?! The Greek God of the Underworld?? Bro really moved up in the world, huh...
Please read all I took my time to craft this
1. Galactus, draws his primary power from the Power Cosmic, energy that is absorbed from planets, particularly those with abundant life forces . The whole reason I even mentioned him was for people claiming the planetary energy is useless for someone that eventually becomes universal.
2. Moving on to the real debate:
While I could argue about the nature of multiple worlds or universes, it ultimately doesn’t matter in this context, as different gods may have created different worlds, as interpreted in the source material and they don’t have to be connected.
Let’s focus on the original manga chapter. You can translate for yourself or ask someone to but this is it below.
Omnipotence (全能)
A god is said to have used this power in the process of creating the world. It’s essentially a programming language for creation (創世). Only an omniscient and omnipotent god can wield this power, which materializes everything. An absolute will—this is omnipotence. It is the divine technique among divine techniques.
Now, let’s break this down further:
Everyone use this so u should know this by now. Sekai (world) in the text can refer to “planet,” “universe,” or “society.” However, in this case, it cannot mean just a planet or society for the following reasons:
1. Momoshiki’s Wordings:
The term “the world” includes Momoshiki’s world, which is not Earth. Momoshiki is an extraterrestrial being who came to Earth to harvest a chakra fruit. He didn’t consider Earth his world, which suggests that when he refers to “world,” (universe) he means a broader, all-encompassing world, not just a single planet or society. This is clear when he speaks to Boruto as if their world both his and Boruto was created by a god. So far he should have had access to this information even before coming to earth as since he came to earth and was defeated by Boruto he became stuck in his body.
This honestly should be enough but let’s go further.
2. Interdimensional Scale:
The ability we’re discussing can rewrite memories on an interdimensional scale, affecting beings beyond the main universe. This points to a scope far beyond a single planet or society in terms of range.
3. Reality-Rewriting
The power is described as a “programming language,” which has already been acknowledged as capable of reality warping , as accepted by the wiki.
4. Peerless Existence:
We have examples like Kaguya, who, despite being downplayed, was at least capable of creating and destroying a 4B constructs over time. The energy she outputs per second with the ETSO places her at least at (5-A). Shibai, having ascended far beyond the Kaguya that absorbed the IT charkra ( I mean she has not ascended yet lol), would naturally be on a different scale altogether . When Momoshiki refers to omnipotence, he notes that it’s a power only an all-knowing, all-powerful god can wield—far beyond someone like Kaguya, whom he saw as inferior to himself. Kaguya would not be able handle this power, in fact no otutsuki can truly wield it like a god hence this statement “it’s a power only an all-knowing, all-powerful god can wield” by extension, Omnipotence surpasses even the Expansive Truth-Seeking Orb (ETSO), making it the most powerful shinjutsu of all shinjustu.
In conclusion, there’s no reason for the Otsutsuki to continuously absorb planetary energy if their end goal were limited to a single planet. Their goal transcends planetary matters, shibai the peerless existence we’ve seen so far, has nigh-omniscience, being able to see all possible futures, pasts, and presents. The true goal of the Otsutsuki goes beyond mere planetary domination lol they literally discard the dried up planet when they are done. They seek something far greater—control over reality itself. Omnipotence the ultimate power, capable of shaping and programming the very fabric of existence.
Edit
Energy that ETSO outputs per second (though downplayed)
491 ronnaton can create about 28 dwarf stars per seconds
3. Finally the reason I stopped arguing for uzuhiko was because I know nothing I say will change the mods minds . I prefer not to waste my energy. If you believe Arc and hades won, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it.
Or down, depends on perspective
Please read all I took my time to craft this
1. Galactus, draws his primary power from the Power Cosmic, energy that is absorbed from planets, particularly those with abundant life forces . The whole reason I even mentioned him was for people claiming the planetary energy is useless for someone that eventually becomes universal.
2. Moving on to the real debate:
While I could argue about the nature of multiple worlds or universes, it ultimately doesn’t matter in this context, as different gods may have created different worlds, as interpreted in the source material and they don’t have to be connected.
Let’s focus on the original manga chapter. You can translate for yourself or ask someone to but this is it below.
Omnipotence (全能)
A god is said to have used this power in the process of creating the world. It’s essentially a programming language for creation (創世). Only an omniscient and omnipotent god can wield this power, which materializes everything. An absolute will—this is omnipotence. It is the divine technique among divine techniques.
Now, let’s break this down further:
Everyone use this so u should know this by now. Sekai (world) in the text can refer to “planet,” “universe,” or “society.” However, in this case, it cannot mean just a planet or society for the following reasons:
1. Momoshiki’s Wordings:
The term “the world” includes Momoshiki’s world, which is not Earth. Momoshiki is an extraterrestrial being who came to Earth to harvest a chakra fruit. He didn’t consider Earth his world, which suggests that when he refers to “world,” (universe) he means a broader, all-encompassing world, not just a single planet or society. This is clear when he speaks to Boruto as if their world both his and Boruto was created by a god. So far he should have had access to this information even before coming to earth as since he came to earth and was defeated by Boruto he became stuck in his body.
This honestly should be enough but let’s go further.
2. Interdimensional Scale:
The ability we’re discussing can rewrite memories on an interdimensional scale, affecting beings beyond the main universe. This points to a scope far beyond a single planet or society in terms of range.
3. Reality-Rewriting
The power is described as a “programming language,” which has already been acknowledged as capable of reality warping , as accepted by the wiki.
4. Peerless Existence:
We have examples like Kaguya, who, despite being downplayed, was at least capable of creating and destroying a 4B constructs over time. The energy she outputs per second with the ETSO places her at least at (5-A). Shibai, having ascended far beyond the Kaguya that absorbed the IT charkra ( I mean she has not ascended yet lol), would naturally be on a different scale altogether . When Momoshiki refers to omnipotence, he notes that it’s a power only an all-knowing, all-powerful god can wield—far beyond someone like Kaguya, whom he saw as inferior to himself. Kaguya would not be able handle this power, in fact no otutsuki can truly wield it like a god hence this statement “it’s a power only an all-knowing, all-powerful god can wield” by extension, Omnipotence surpasses even the Expansive Truth-Seeking Orb (ETSO), making it the most powerful shinjutsu of all shinjustu.
In conclusion, there’s no reason for the Otsutsuki to continuously absorb planetary energy if their end goal were limited to a single planet. Their goal transcends planetary matters, shibai the peerless existence we’ve seen so far, has nigh-omniscience, being able to see all possible futures, pasts, and presents. The true goal of the Otsutsuki goes beyond mere planetary domination lol they literally discard the dried up planet when they are done. They seek something far greater—control over reality itself. Omnipotence the ultimate power, capable of shaping and programming the very fabric of existence.
Edit
Energy that ETSO outputs per second (though downplayed)
491 ronnaton can create about 28 dwarf stars per seconds
3. Finally the reason I stopped arguing for uzuhiko was because I know nothing I say will change the mods minds . I prefer not to waste my energy. If you believe Arc and hades won, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it.
You mentioned TTC earlier, wanted to ask if you stay in Canada Scarborough.
BRO COOKED WITH THIS
1. He was referring to the giant tenseigan
Used to be in Scarborough yeah, moved from there sadly
My discord ID is lex0831.
I'm not planning on meeting IRL if thats what youre thinking
one statement says there is a max limit, the other statement says there is no limit, so to make sense of that I think interpreting the latter statement as him having the ability to charge up Uzuhiko to any higher finite number, be it zettatons or zettafoes or higher makes more sense
tiny tag to catch your attention for the above post ^^I mean if they said that it just would be a cap
I remember it was for Delta too
When we say Gaara>Hashirama, Fandom lynch them but...
Which Hades? The one from Bakugan or Saint Seiya? Or the Hades from the Selena series?
I remember there was a statement for Delta that said "at the speed of light".
Bro, honestly I now have sincere respect for you. The argument below is crazy. Bro was literally going to kill Hidari with just his normal Rasengan if he had not regenerated.
can u gimme ur opinion on the above paragraph that i wrote, I wanna know if my logic is tweaking or not
Can you copy the message link to my wall so it doesn’t get lost in this thread
That was a fake databook thing
Do you know these arguments fall apart if you say "by limitless boruto was using a hyperbole to show how much powerful maximum uzuhiko is compared to other jutsu". I'm not saying that's the case but I'm just putting it out there
I don't understand can you elaborate
Alright
