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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

I really don’t see a reason for Shibai to come back in an antagonistic roll in the series tbh. His Goal was to transcend to Godhood and Beyond, and he achieved that. There should be no reason to meddle in the Universes Affairs anymore unless the realm of Transcendence is directly implicated by events in the physical Uni.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
I really don’t see a reason for Shibai to come back in an antagonistic roll in the series tbh. His Goal was to transcend to Godhood and Beyond, and he achieved that. There should be no reason to meddle in the Universes Affairs anymore unless the realm of Transcendence is directly implicated by events in the physical Uni.
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"You who are beneath Me dare to venture into My realm, thinking you might surpass Me. I shall crush your world to dust, lest others should deign to attempt it."
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
No, he makes them after the sun rose (ch.545) (his encounter with the Raikage ended with the sun rising [ch.544]).
Also running around isn't really something that matters to these people, it's nowhere near as exhausting as an actual fight, especially a hard fought one. I believe there's statements that Shinobi can run for several days without rest, so it really is no big deal.
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I'm referring moreso to the fact that he maintains KCM for that long at all, as it should be passively draining while he keeps it active
 
If someone were to do a fan reboot of the Naruto manga, would you want them to incorporate elements from the anime fillers? No matter your answer on that, what other elements would you like them to incorporate?
 
MinatoSparkle said:
I'm referring moreso to the fact that he maintains KCM for that long at all, as it should be passively draining while he keeps it active
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I mean, there's no set time limit for KCM that I'm aware of, unlike SM and initial KLM. If he's not actively using up the chakra, he can probably stay in it for as long as he wants. Every time he was forced out of the form (as far as I can remember at least), it was after being pushed in battle and being forced to use up his chakra rather than being in the form for too long.
 
Alright, real talk boys.
October is upon us, and I promised ya'll some CRTs. But decisions have to be made.

As you all know, due to Chakra no longer being considered a UES, major adjustments have to be made to the verse's AP.
This applies to both the Tier 8 Part I characters, as well as all of the Tier 7 Part II characters. Funnily enough, both of them are scaled from Sasuke's Katons.
So that's something that needs to be handled, but it should be relatively simple because it'll mostly be value swaps. Not a ton of adjustments will be made to the scaling.
Tier 6 and above won't be touched either as we went through painstaking trouble to make sure their scaling is based on feats, so they're not affected.

Then there's speed, of course. We already did Part I speed earlier this year, which leaves Part II and beyond.

So the question is: would you guys prefer it if we did speed first or AP? I'll make two posts after this one. Feel free to like the option you'd prefer to start the revisions off with. I mainly want to gauge what the masses want here. Cause I personally don't really care much either way. Both need to be done, and will be done eventually.
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Alright, real talk boys.
October is upon us, and I promised ya'll some CRTs. But decisions have to be made.

As you all know, due to Chakra no longer being considered a UES, major adjustments have to be made to the verse's AP.
This applies to both the Tier 8 Part I characters, as well as all of the Tier 7 Part II characters. Funnily enough, both of them are scaled from Sasuke's Katons.
So that's something that needs to be handled, but it should be relatively simple because it'll mostly be value swaps. Not a ton of adjustments will be made to the scaling.
Tier 6 and above won't be touched either as we went through painstaking trouble to make sure their scaling is based on feats, so they're not affected.

Then there's speed, of course. We already did Part I speed earlier this year, which leaves Part II and beyond.

So the question is: would you guys prefer it if we did speed first or AP? I'll make two posts after this one. Feel free to like the option you'd prefer to start the revisions off with. I mainly want to gauge what the masses want here. Cause I personally don't really care much either way. Both need to be done, and will be done eventually.
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AP! MY BIRTHDAY IS TOMORROW SO MY OPINION MATTERS MOST! 😈
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
I mean, there's no set time limit for KCM that I'm aware of, unlike SM and initial KLM. If he's not actively using up the chakra, he can probably stay in it for as long as he wants. Every time he was forced out of the form (as far as I can remember at least), it was after being pushed in battle and being forced to use up his chakra rather than being in the form for too long.
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Mayhaps, since the chakra is emitting from Naruto's body, I'd think it burns out without him doing anything but I suppose that's not directly stated
 
Early KCM Naruto struggles with Biju Level Characters. End of Danzou Fight Sasuke should be comfortably above Biju Level.
  1. We already know Amateratsu AP can hurt Gyuuki.
  2. Susanoo Ribs could absorb “most” of an Enraged V2 Ay’s Strike, leaving only enough energy in the strike to Bruise Sasuke’s Neck.
And that was before he received several hate amps, strengthening his doujutsu. Even if we just leave it at that, 5KS Sasuke w/ Susanoo Ribs + Amaterasu is already at a tier that Naruto Struggles with. Sasuke should be comfortably above Biju Level with Skeletal Susanoo, let alone Armoured Susanoo and Complete Possession. Then with EMS, he is stated to be > Itachi who could combat KCM Naruto physically.

I really am starting to think Early KCM Naruto isn’t beating Fresh Post Danzou Fight Sasuke unless it’s argued he outlasts Sasuke until his eyes burn out.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
So, um… we all in agreement that Planetary Rasengan is a >6x AP Boost?
  1. Directly stated to be an enhanced version of Rasengan Barrage in Databook.
  2. Depiction shows the attack creating 3 sets of Inverse Rotations (Odama Rasengan = Large Counter-Clockwise Rotation | Regular Rasengan’s = Smaller Clockwise Rotations) — The configuration is set up to direct all energy/force towards the center (Three clockwise rotations in a triangular format directs towards the center of any system).
  3. “The Last” (Canon Portrayal) Depicts the resulting explosion’s (Plural) also fusing into one Blast — Meaning the energy generated per Set ultimately fuses unto one attack as well, further supporting this interpretation.
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Hmm, perhaps. I'd need to think about it for a little bit.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
We already know Amateratsu AP can hurt Gyuuki.
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That's heat based hax. Not AP.
NeoKingOfLight said:
Sasuke should be comfortably above Biju Level with Skeletal Susanoo, let alone Armoured Susanoo and Complete Possession.
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Because?
His only direct scaling to the bijuu is via Bee (who ran rings around him) and Ay (who's only comparable to Gyuki's physicals)
NeoKingOfLight said:
Then with EMS, he is stated to be > Itachi who could combat KCM Naruto physically.
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He's stated to be > Itachi's ninjutsu and genjutsu afaik. Itachi has no scaling directly connecting him to Naruto's ninjutsu.
If we're going by indirect bijuu scaling, Naruto has been "bijuu" level since Akatsuki suppression arc.
I'm a little confused anyway since you're using EMS Sasuke feats/statements to scale FKS Sasuke
Just a little heads up, I don't particularly care for VS debates nor do I feel strongly about this particular one. Which means I may not respond to your response
 
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