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Umm, that's not in my plans at the moment, no. Why would it be 6x AP?@UchihaSlayer96
If and when you get to AP, you’re gonna get Planetary Rasengan Accepted as a 6x AP Attack, right?
Post in thread 'Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread'Umm, that's not in my plans at the moment, no. Why would it be 6x AP?
Hmm, perhaps. I'd need to think about it for a little bit.So, um… we all in agreement that Planetary Rasengan is a >6x AP Boost?
- Directly stated to be an enhanced version of Rasengan Barrage in Databook.
- Depiction shows the attack creating 3 sets of Inverse Rotations (Odama Rasengan = Large Counter-Clockwise Rotation | Regular Rasengan’s = Smaller Clockwise Rotations) — The configuration is set up to direct all energy/force towards the center (Three clockwise rotations in a triangular format directs towards the center of any system).
- “The Last” (Canon Portrayal) Depicts the resulting explosion’s (Plural) also fusing into one Blast — Meaning the energy generated per Set ultimately fuses unto one attack as well, further supporting this interpretation.
That's heat based hax. Not AP.We already know Amateratsu AP can hurt Gyuuki.
Because?Sasuke should be comfortably above Biju Level with Skeletal Susanoo, let alone Armoured Susanoo and Complete Possession.
He's stated to be > Itachi's ninjutsu and genjutsu afaik. Itachi has no scaling directly connecting him to Naruto's ninjutsu.Then with EMS, he is stated to be > Itachi who could combat KCM Naruto physically.
Amaterasu is heat haxEarly KCM Naruto struggles with Biju Level Characters. End of Danzou Fight Sasuke should be comfortably above Biju Level.
- We already know Amateratsu AP can hurt Gyuuki.
IDK any of those people TBHYou're in there with:
-Tsubaki
-Nue
-A literal cat from Ninja Storm 4
You might be screwed lmao
I’m not, it’s the opposite actually and i’ve laid out my reasoning from point A-B based on who Sasuke fought and what happened.That's heat based hax. Not AP.
Because?
His only direct scaling to the bijuu is via Bee (who ran rings around him) and Ay (who's only comparable to Gyuki's physicals)
He's stated to be > Itachi's ninjutsu and genjutsu afaik. Itachi has no scaling directly connecting him to Naruto's ninjutsu.
If we're going by indirect bijuu scaling, Naruto has been "bijuu" level since Akatsuki suppression arc.
I'm a little confused anyway since you're using EMS Sasuke feats/statements to scale FKS Sasuke
Just a little heads up, I don't particularly care for VS debates nor do I feel strongly about this particular one. Which means I may not respond to your response
Yeah, he's a cyborg.Also… mf has a lot of Iron in his body.
Kinda want to know the answers to this, because there are a lot of good or decent things from fillers. Like Ibiki's brother, or Tobirama's sword. Despite coming from a boring arc, they were cool.If someone were to do a fan reboot of the Naruto manga, would you want them to incorporate elements from the anime fillers? No matter your answer on that, what other elements would you like them to incorporate?
Well yes, “duh”, but the composite is half iron/chakra. And he’s producing wnough to completely wrap a Kaiju. He has a long of Iron in his blood regardless of Modifications. Its just surprising.Yeah, he's a cyborg.
Definitely not. It's just outright stated that if Sasuke attacked the village after recovering, he and Naruto both would've died, and they needed extra boosts to defeat each other.I really am starting to think Early KCM Naruto isn’t beating Fresh Post Danzou Fight Sasuke unless it’s argued he outlasts Sasuke until his eyes burn out.
I'm curious, what are your thoughts on this?
I been saying this since for years… I even got killed tor championing this earlier this year.I'm curious, what are your thoughts on this?
違う・・・あんなものはただの付け焼き刃さ その力だけは己から体に修めた・・・龍地洞でね
The raws don't refer to the Curse Mark being a temporary power as its disadvantage like VIZ does (at least not in the way VIZ phrases it), Kabuto just considers it inferior in general
I think it changes absolutely nothing.I'm curious, what are your thoughts on this?
違う・・・あんなものはただの付け焼き刃さ その力だけは己から体に修めた・・・龍地洞でね
The raws don't refer to the Curse Mark being a temporary power as its disadvantage like VIZ does (at least not in the way VIZ phrases it), Kabuto just considers it inferior in general
Cause you consider the Curse Mark an additive boost?I think it changes absolutely nothing.
My condolencesI even got killed
Yes, and more importantly it's different mechanically from Juugo's Sage Transformation and Sage Mode.Cause you consider the Curse Mark an additive boost?
I'm sure you know my thoughts on chakra amps not being linear, which is quite consistent, and yes they're mechanically different, but if the SM boost is only conditionally superior to the CM if the user is strong enough, that's not really outright superiority. The portrayal is that it's just simply superior regardless of how the boost is derived, which should mean it has a higher multiplier as well.Yes, and more importantly it's different mechanically from Juugo's Sage Transformation and Sage Mode.
CM draws its power from chakra that Orochimaru placed within the mark.
While the other two draw in Nature Energy externally.
The issue was never with Sage Mode being considered superior or not. (it is) It may as well be a billion times stronger for all I care.
The issue is there's no real way to link the SM boost to the CM "multiplier" because they're just not the same mechanically.
And that's what you should figure out a way around if you ever want this to be accepted.
Then there's the issue of consistency that was raised in the original downgrade thread, but that's not really the fundamental issue. Still, it is a factor. At least on the wiki.
I'm sure you know my thoughts on chakra amps not being linear, which is quite consistent, and yes they're mechanically different, but if the SM boost is only conditionally superior to the CM if the user is strong enough, that's not really outright superiority. The portrayal is that it's just simply superior regardless of how the boost is derived, which should mean it has a higher multiplier as well.
But yea I don't wanna have a whole debate about CM vs SM rn, I'll just keep this in mind as a key point to address if/when I make a Sage Mode CRT (earliest that'd ever happen would probably be like winter break).
Riiiight, that's why he didn't use Karma.This is now massively interesting given what we know now about Koji:
Well, hey, go ham I say!I'm sure you know my thoughts on chakra amps not being linear, which is quite consistent, and yes they're mechanically different, but if the SM boost is only conditionally superior to the CM if the user is strong enough, that's not really outright superiority. The portrayal is that it's just simply superior regardless of how the boost is derived, which should mean it has a higher multiplier as well.
But yea I don't wanna have a whole debate about CM vs SM rn, I'll just keep this in mind as a key point to address if/when I make a Sage Mode CRT (earliest that'd ever happen would probably be like winter break).
Would this Change TPC Crater?KonoSuna Naruto Planet Size
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Well, hey, go ham I say!And my condolences in advance!
Can Kaguya uses genjutsu btw?no genjutsu has shown to work on edo tensei's and corpses IT is just an exception because its tied to the divine tree and sucking up living things chakra.
Didn't Kabuto genjutsu Edo Itachi?no genjutsu has shown to work on edo tensei's and corpses IT is just an exception because its tied to the divine tree and sucking up living things chakra.
Yes. She has a Sharingan, and can cast Infinite Tsukuyomi.Can Kaguya uses genjutsu btw?
Is it in character for her use her sharingan? Like on an individualYes. She has a Sharingan, and can cast Infinite Tsukuyomi.
Yes, according to Hagoromo and the Databook, she used the IT a lot in the past.Is it in character for her use her sharingan? Like on an individual