Yeah, like, Itachi himself just straight up spells it out to Naruto, Kabuto, and Sasuke. The man has a lot of regrets, and that should be obvious to anyone.
Wait, people actually think this? What the ****?
A lot of cringy ass people out there sadly....
I just like hearing your voice
ive been following the series since 2006...cant believe itAlso **** me, Naruto (The Series) is 25. God damn I feel old....
Don’t forget, Shikamaru watched the Video of Amadou making that admission. So it’s not really just Boruto’s accounting he’s taking into consideration but every little piece of information.
Same. I was in 6th Grade at the time.
Yes but Amado's admission doesn't mean as much to Shikamaru as Sarada does to Sasuke, or Amado's inventions do to Amado. So if we're going by things to trust, Shikamaru has the least.
Amado's admission is a part of the contradictions, not something separate. It's like how Sasuke gave his headband to Boruto and not Kawaki.
There is no way that's true. Just think about what each of them have to combat Omnipotence. Which do you think is more trustworthy? Do you think Shikamaru trusts Amado's admission nearly as much as Sasuke does Sarada? Or Amado does his own habits and inventions? Even in this chapter, Shikamaru doesn't even think about Amado's admission. Amado's admission holds as much relevance as any other contradiction, for example when Sasuke pointed out that Momoshiki was inside Boruto. So I don't see why you're counting Amado's admission as something extra when it's a part of the bag of contradictions that every character has to deal with.
Yup. And this is harder for Shikamaru because he doesn't have a solid anchor. When Amado asks himself why he believes that Kawaki is the one with his daughter's data, he has his own habits and inventions as proof, something that he trusts more than anything and something that isn't tampered by Omnipotence. Same with Sasuke. But that isn't the case for Shikamaru. Amado's admission holds as much weight for Shikamaru as any other physical or memory contradiction.
Not the case. Based on what Sarada said, the contradictions being suppressed are strictly related to Boruto and Kawaki. The head band that Boruto should have, Momoshiki, that afflicts Boruto, Kawaki’s modifications, Boruto’s pictures, etc.
The question isn’t about which is more trustworthy. Shikamaru clearly isn’t using “trust” in the same way as Sasuke or Amadou. He’s working with the information he has, and is coming to a conclusion based on that because of the logic and sense it makes, which is more than Sasuke and Amadou has (Edit: I should say more “Direct” then they have, for clarification sake).
Disagree, and it not being mentioned doesn’t mean it’s not a factor still. You’re coupling Amadou’s admission with things that are affected by Omnipotence and it’s not one of them. I refer back to my first response above. I’ll also add that this chapter also proves Boruto’s Account is not “fully” affected by Omnipotence, only certain aspects of it, which Shikamaru recounts and is shown to us. This adds more support that Amadou’s statements aren’t affected as it has no parts that Omnipotence would suppress. Shikamaru’s ability to remember his conversation isn’t suppressed. “Omnipotence” is suppressed. Not the general information relayed.
Again, I refer to my first response above.
This is only correct if you believe Amadou’s Admission would be affected by Omnipotence, but it isn’t.
He was literally ordered to do it, and told if he didn't, they'd be killed anyway, along with him, his brother, and many more civilians.
"Contributed" is doing some heavy lifting considering they were being actively marginalized, and then planned a bloodless coup without the use of the Nine-Tails.
We likey.
Pain, Itachi, Kabuto, Orochimaru, Jiraiya, Hiruzen, Gaara and Shikamaru are the best written characters in this series. Shikamaru is unfortunately hated in the Naruto fandom in Turkey. Especially in these TBV incidents, the group that translated the manga cursed Shikamaru's mother. They are all Hashirama fans. One of those guys worshipped Hashirama, but I don't think he is such a well written character. I mean, I don't understand how someone can praise Hashirama's writing while seeing most of the other characters as trash when there are dozens of good characters in this series.
"Amado worked on Kawaki and not Boruto" is not different from "Boruto was in pictures with Naruto and Kawaki wasn't". Both serve to prove that there was a switch in one's memory as Amado stated. So agree to disagree.
Which is why it's harder for him. That's my point. His trust is working in a more abstract manner.
I disagree. The information and amount of it is irrelevant since it clearly goes away eventually. Everything boils down to "why" one believes what they do.
Refer above.
This chapter doesn't prove that. Omnipotence is clearly stated to erase someone's memory "as time passes". So currently Shikamaru might remember some parts of it, but he's prolly gonna forget more and more with time.
For Shikamaru, yes. I think Omnipotence is gonna make him ignore these facts just like all the files and pictures of Boruto and Kawaki.
What the ****...?
Shika dear deserves more love.
idk in a question on hashirama vs hagoromo is ridiculous i can't begin to imagine. It's like his brain knows it's hag but he just doesn't want to say it
a lot of people in the fan base view him as a saint, a narutoesque kinda guy
Hagoromo is a dumb composite character with essentially all the hax, skill, and intelligence under the sun.
So in our fandom Hagoromo>All characters because his HAX's are so good even the crowd that says it's better. He even had a meme. When someone asked what Hagoromo's hax was on an Instagram post, he said "he has a different hax". I've been using this meme for 3 years. I even wrote about it in a Versus Thread here.
Bro what didn't you understand Hashirama is a perfectly written character that's why above DMS kaashi and Tsunade are stronger than Tobirama because he is his student.
No it doesn't, what are you on about? Danzo was factually making him choose one.
I am actually curious about this. Any rebuttals anyone?
Kotoamatsukami is an utterly ridiculous ability, so yes. He can punch well above his weight class with it.
I think he'd be like Itachi level, maybe Itachi+ if you're generous.
A surviving adult Obito and Rin getting married might have actually prevented the coup.
Superior to Itachi, and probably Bijuu level IF he got the Perfect Susano'o(so let's hope he has a brother with some eyes)
Itachi was already comfortably Bijuu level without the Susano'o lmao.
I could see him being above Itachi tbh, at least physically. Also considering Itachi’s health holds him back quite a bit
Last chapter got me wondering how old these mfs are. They were old af in Shippuden and still hold their positions in the new era lmao
Like I said to Slayer I could def see him being above Itachi, and I think he’d already be Bijuu level without PS. We already have somewhat of a relativity between Akatsuki members and Bijuu/Jinchuriki
