He was literally ordered to do it, and told if he didn't, they'd be killed anyway, along with him, his brother, and many more civilians.
"Contributed" is doing some heavy lifting considering they were being actively marginalized, and then planned a bloodless coup without the use of the Nine-Tails.
We likey.
Pain, Itachi, Kabuto, Orochimaru, Jiraiya, Hiruzen, Gaara and Shikamaru are the best written characters in this series. Shikamaru is unfortunately hated in the Naruto fandom in Turkey. Especially in these TBV incidents, the group that translated the manga cursed Shikamaru's mother. They are all Hashirama fans. One of those guys worshipped Hashirama, but I don't think he is such a well written character. I mean, I don't understand how someone can praise Hashirama's writing while seeing most of the other characters as trash when there are dozens of good characters in this series.
"Amado worked on Kawaki and not Boruto" is not different from "Boruto was in pictures with Naruto and Kawaki wasn't". Both serve to prove that there was a switch in one's memory as Amado stated. So agree to disagree.
Which is why it's harder for him. That's my point. His trust is working in a more abstract manner.
I disagree. The information and amount of it is irrelevant since it clearly goes away eventually. Everything boils down to "why" one believes what they do.
Refer above.
This chapter doesn't prove that. Omnipotence is clearly stated to erase someone's memory "as time passes". So currently Shikamaru might remember some parts of it, but he's prolly gonna forget more and more with time.
For Shikamaru, yes. I think Omnipotence is gonna make him ignore these facts just like all the files and pictures of Boruto and Kawaki.
What the ****...?
Shika dear deserves more love.
idk in a question on hashirama vs hagoromo is ridiculous i can't begin to imagine. It's like his brain knows it's hag but he just doesn't want to say it
a lot of people in the fan base view him as a saint, a narutoesque kinda guy
Hagoromo is a dumb composite character with essentially all the hax, skill, and intelligence under the sun.
So in our fandom Hagoromo>All characters because his HAX's are so good even the crowd that says it's better. He even had a meme. When someone asked what Hagoromo's hax was on an Instagram post, he said "he has a different hax". I've been using this meme for 3 years. I even wrote about it in a Versus Thread here.
Bro what didn't you understand Hashirama is a perfectly written character that's why above DMS kaashi and Tsunade are stronger than Tobirama because he is his student.
No it doesn't, what are you on about? Danzo was factually making him choose one.
I am actually curious about this. Any rebuttals anyone?
Kotoamatsukami is an utterly ridiculous ability, so yes. He can punch well above his weight class with it.
I think he'd be like Itachi level, maybe Itachi+ if you're generous.
A surviving adult Obito and Rin getting married might have actually prevented the coup.
Superior to Itachi, and probably Bijuu level IF he got the Perfect Susano'o(so let's hope he has a brother with some eyes)
Itachi was already comfortably Bijuu level without the Susano'o lmao.
I could see him being above Itachi tbh, at least physically. Also considering Itachi’s health holds him back quite a bit
Last chapter got me wondering how old these mfs are. They were old af in Shippuden and still hold their positions in the new era lmao
Like I said to Slayer I could def see him being above Itachi, and I think he’d already be Bijuu level without PS. We already have somewhat of a relativity between Akatsuki members and Bijuu/Jinchuriki
He was slightly superior to Itachi when he was still alive, but tbh I think that was mainly because Shisui was a bit older and because he had a Mangekyo Sharingan and Itachi didn't. But in terms of potential, skill, talent, etc, I think they're more or less dead even IMO.
Just based on their scaling to each other when they were both alive at the same time, Shisui was considered the strongest living Uchiha at the time. Makes sense considering he had the MS and a Humanoid Susano'o.
They're Hiruzen's classmates, so they should've been ~69-70 in Part I.
madara and orochimaro claiming immortality with so much amp meahwhile these MF just sitting and casually have true immortalityThey're Hiruzen's classmates, so they should've been ~69-70 in Part I.
This would make them 72 during Part II. 74 during The Last. 87 during NNG. And ~90 during TBV.
Ancient ass mfers
the correct answer would be to choose neither because danzo making him choose is a false dichotomy.
"Do this and live or do nothing and die."
"A false dichotomy (or false dilemma) is a logical fallacy where an argument presents two options as the only possible choices, ignoring other alternatives that may exist. It forces a situation into an either/or scenario when, in reality, there are more options or a more nuanced middle ground. This oversimplification often misleads the audience into thinking there are only two outcomes or courses of action."
"Do this or I will kill you""A false dichotomy (or false dilemma) is a logical fallacy where an argument presents two options as the only possible choices, ignoring other alternatives that may exist. It forces a situation into an either/or scenario when, in reality, there are more options or a more nuanced middle ground. This oversimplification often misleads the audience into thinking there are only two outcomes or courses of action."
