Which numbers are you referring to? Are you talking about the density parameter from the Friedmann equations?
Except in those cases the speed of light is mentioned. Continued below.
In Uzuhiko's case, it is mentioned that rotational KE is used. But unlike the previous two examples, we have no idea how chakra and tears in spacetime are related. What is the exact relation between chakra and spacetime? Is chakra tearing space through its sheer mass? Or is it just fundamentally easier for Chakra to tear space? Unlike SoL statements or Uzuhiko where we are outright given the speed or AP, we have no idea how chakra is causing the tears in space. You claim that it is similar to how celestial objects cause curvature in space, but that is nowhere stated to be the case.
The issue in short is this:
1. SoL statements: character moves at sol. We don't need any assumptions to conclude the speed of the character. We only need assumptions for its repercussions.
2. Uzuhiko: The character can hit you with planetary KE. Again we don't need any assumptions to conclude the AP.
3. Tears in space: We need to assume that chakra causing tears in space is the same as mass causing tears in space cuz only then can you use the black hole calc. For that to happen you'd also need to conclude that Naruto's chakra is causing an increase in mass surrounding him. But we don't see that at all. Only then can you claim anything about the AP.
To clarify, the only reason I mentioned Uzuhiko was in response to your claim about space-time tears causing black holes and gravitational effects. My point was Uzuhiko harnesses planetary energy without causing destruction, showing that Naruto’s universe doesn’t adhere to real-world consequences like black holes or gravitational anomalies when manipulating space or energy. This is crucial to understanding how power scaling in Naruto operates under different rules.
1. Speed of Light (SoL) Statements: You are correct that when characters move at light speed, no assumptions are needed for their speed. But the lack of real-world consequences, such as atmospheric destruction or time dilation, shows that Naruto doesn’t apply real-world physics for the effects of these feats.
2. Uzuhiko: While planetary energy is used, it doesn’t destroy the planet—something that would occur in reality. This shows Naruto’s universe picks and chooses when real-world effects apply, further supporting the idea that space-time tears wouldn’t follow real-world gravitational consequences.
Now for the final and most important part, the other parts are just supportive argument
Tears in space:
We need to assume that chakra causing tears in space is the same as mass causing tears in space cuz only then can you use the black hole calc.
Answer= We already agreed that Naruto hosts in him a mass of energy the being is considered to have a chakra pull so massive, it is immeasurable ( now I'm not saying infinite, just unquantifiable ).
For that to happen you'd also need to conclude that Naruto's chakra is causing an increase in mass surrounding him. But we don't see that at all. Only then can you claim anything about the AP.
Answer- well I already explained how fiction logic does not always equate to real level logic, hence the examples above. The focus here is the feat just like in the case of Uzuhiko.
This is the feat here, Naruto just by existing is causing tears in space. An abnormality so bad it needs to be reported to the otutsuki clan. The reason the space curvature exceeded the amount required was because of the mass of energy present in Naruto.
Notice Momoshiki focus was kurama literally referring to him as energy.
Yes especially when your means of moving is via teleportation
she does which is why she has space-time manipulation in her profile.
No you are wrong
Guy I have been up since yesterday. I will reply later to any other argument I need to rest.
but can you show me a link that explains Spacetime manipulation, not time manipulation or spatial manipulation but both together
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