Samlex would ******* collapse in the GoH fandom because we have a mfer overlap multiple universes via brute strength accepted as just "interdimensional spatial manipulation" yet he's going insane over Kaguya doing almost the same thing using her eyeball hax not having a l2C rating
True.
What is my business with The GOH world? Lol you can have something that is correct and still ignored. Even for the arguments we are having now, it is not accepted hence why I'm bringing it up. You think character in GOH are universal level then fix it yourself. My problem is not your problem.Samlex would ******* collapse in the GoH fandom because we have a mfer overlap multiple universes via brute strength accepted as just "interdimensional spatial manipulation" yet he's going insane over Kaguya doing almost the same thing using her eyeball hax not having a l2C rating
Yeah but this logic stops working beyond a single dimension.
That's because the boxes aren't truly parallel to each other.
Now Naruto will soon join Bleach where it should be. We all struggled but at last, we all eat. Not one piece though.
You'll have to explain that a bit more ngl
Karo im not attacking you
but can you show me a link that explains Spacetime manipulation, not time manipulation or spatial manipulation but both together
What are Hax?
what kind of infinite? Aleph-Null or 2^Aleph-Null? those are two VERY different things
Is this statement true, kurama is a mass of Chakra?
then he doesn't really understand how the wiki treats higher dimensions here.
Idk, I think he knows that you need uncountably infinite to reach the next dimension. If that's what you're referring to. (
There isn't one on the wiki. Subset abilities are not explained most of the time. But if you check the spatial manipulation page there is a note at the end on space time manipulationKaro im not attacking you
Do you need KE, PE, if you are significantly affecting a space-time continuum?
so manipulating Time is Time manipulation, manipulating space is Spacial manipulation and manipulate both is Space-Time manipulation.
Doesn't the context make it obvious?
yes especially when your means of moving is via teleportation
she does which is why she has space-time manipulation in her profile.
see I knew he was talking about countably infinite.
Aleph null means a set of countably infinite items, you need at least an uncountably infinite (power set of countably infinite) number of 3D spaces to reach 4D. Which is prolly not what you're talking about.Also I don't fw dimensional tiering enough to remember what Aleph-null and 2^Aleph-Null mean so you would need to expand on that
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To clarify, the only reason I mentioned Uzuhiko was in response to your claim about space-time tears causing black holes and gravitational effects. My point was Uzuhiko harnesses planetary energy without causing destruction, showing that Naruto’s universe doesn’t adhere to real-world consequences like black holes or gravitational anomalies when manipulating space or energy. This is crucial to understanding how power scaling in Naruto operates under different rules.
No you are wrong
Hello please read my argument that took some time. I enjoy debating you.
I never said Naruto adheres to real world physics. If I thought that then I wouldn't spend time here. That has no bearing on my point tho.
Exactly, it picks and chooses when to apply real world physics. Which means it can choose to have tears in spacetime without having anything to do with mass and gravity.
Chakra isn't irl energy or matter. It's a supernatural concept that can be converted to matter or energy as we know irl. You need to prove that chakra bending space works the same way as energy or matter bending space cuz we can see chakra doesn't act like that. This is why we have standards for black holes. Even if a character supposedly creates a black hole, but it doesn't act the way a black hole would, it isn't given the stats of a black hole. Same with lasers and lightning. You need to first provide evidence that chakra bending space works in the same way as irl matter or energy.
Fiction still needs to prove certain things to get past the standards on this wiki. Tearing spacetime doesn't have concrete standards but your proposal isn't likely to be accepted.
nope Kaguya's ability to control timespace at that scale is limited to teleporting/moving, so why are you bringing up creation and destruction
Would it affect Butterfly Mode Choji? And that Earth Shinobi's Jutsu?
Pretty sure the Gedo Mazo folded those easily so the scaling chain is likely isolated. But you can probably argue that Choji would downscale 100x from Gedo Mazo which puts him at 300 MTs (7-A) which could scale to every "Elite Jonin" (currently 7-B+) tier.
That's what I thought but why would anyone assume I was talking about an uncountably infinite amount of universes? My point was basically the exact opposite
Idk. Ask Ryzen. I correctly assumed you were talking about countable infinity. Anyways read the link I shared. That should conclude our discussion about 3D parallel spaces needing 4D plane to be separated if one or more of them are universal in size i.e Low 2C.
