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Ep 134
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It has begun.
 
Tbh I thought the edo nerf only applied to the hokages and madera. None of the other edo’s mentioned or were stated to be weaker from what I remember
Kakashi kinda implies it. You could interpret this as just referring to them not having Samehada, but it'd be weird to say "they" rather than just specifying the guy that wields Samehada.
It would still mean that their primes are >= KCM1 Naruto speed. Idk bout that given how hyped up his speed in that form is
Naruto was fatigued from having 13 clones out, so much so that he could barely maintain the form. KCM Naruto was only at full power against Kisame, the Raikage, and Obito/Madara after befriending Kurama.
That's because speed isn't treated inverse the way we treat it on vsbw
KCM 1 was hyped for his shunshin speed (Vs Kisame and Vs Ay)
Not the speed he punches or kicks
Which was what he used against the dojutsu duo
I mean Bee also kinda hypes up his punching speed ("quite a smash")
 
Lmao


There are some good anime arcs tbf ( like the one about Victor that further expands on Kara )

At the minimum I would def recommend certain anime fights over the manga versions

Like Naruto and Sasuke vs Jigen ( The manga version is actually decent but the anime is so much better )
 
I think I’m just gonna switch to the manga. This shit is so ass
Nah I think you should switch to anime canon. Trust me they are very important to the plot and definitely not a sugar coated term for filler. In fact the last few arcs were straight bangers like the Himawari and Kawaki arc, the game arc or sumn, etc. And give us your thoughts after each arc. In fact give us a thorough review of this one.
 
Kakashi kinda implies it. You could interpret this as just referring to them not having Samehada, but it'd be weird to say "they" rather than just specifying the guy that wields Samehada.

Naruto was fatigued from having 13 clones out, so much so that he could barely maintain the form. KCM Naruto was only at full power against Kisame, the Raikage, and Obito/Madara after befriending Kurama.

I mean Bee also kinda hypes up his punching speed ("quite a smash")
I was gonna make about Naruto wasting so much chakra like that but then I remembered he literally just got KCM so he has zero experience on that form.
 
I was gonna make about Naruto wasting so much chakra like that but then I remembered he literally just got KCM so he has zero experience on that form.
There's also the fact that the alliance really needed the help of his clones. They did basically win the war for them after all.
 
Same timeline

After all Boruto mentioning the Thunder Train to the younger creator is what caused it to be created in the future

Chicken and the Egg scenario 🙏
 
Ok, do you agree with my statement that it would have been massively improved if they showed how Boruto and Sasuke's influence had actually affected this Naruto's story?
They kinda weren’t supposed to affect there history hence sasuke wiping everyone’s memories. But tbh idk if that would really make up for all the uruashiki crap
 
Same timeline

After all Boruto mentioning the Thunder Train to the younger creator is what caused it to be created in the future

Chicken and the Egg scenario 🙏
They kinda weren’t supposed to affect there history hence sasuke wiping everyone’s memories. But tbh idk if that would really make up for all the uruashiki crap
I get that it isn't a different timeline and they weren't supposed to remember, but I think both of those things are dumb and should have been different.

I really did like Urashiki, if he didn't drop down and get so weak, and if his final form wasn't nearly Red Momoshiki levels of bad design, this could've been peak. Imagine if more people with some decent power to them had gone to the past. That gives a way to beat him, more feats for everyone there, and gives more of those dope-ass interactions.
 
Which version of madara scales to juubito
His Susano'o scales to at least half as powerful as Juubito.

BSM Naruto's Kurama + Sasuke's Perfect Susano'o <= Juubito

Sasuke's PS < Madara's PS

Rn this doesn't mean anything because Full Kurama (who Madara's PS currently scales to) is already more powerful than BSM Naruto or Sasuke's PS. But if Juubito ever got an upgrade to like High 6-A or something Madara's PS would scale to half of that.
 
I really don't get the Hokage Shikamaru hate. I mean jokes are fine and I crack them too, but I legit see people not wanting this to happen at all. Which is weird. Shikamaru is well established as a weak person in verse. So that makes his tenure all the more interesting. And so far he is one of the more intriguing displays of leadership work in the franchise. It's as if people want the same old "stronk hokage" thing we've seen so far. Imo his weakness makes way for his genius to shine and that is what people used to love about Shikamaru back in the chunin exams. But for some reason now people don't even want to explore that opportunity. A strong Hokage will make the story boring because nobody is gonna be strong enough when the Otsutsukis are involved. A smart hokage honestly is a great opportunity for the writer to make the story more complicated.
 
I really don't get the Hokage Shikamaru hate. I mean jokes are fine and I crack them too, but I legit see people not wanting this to happen at all. Which is weird. Shikamaru is well established as a weak person in verse. So that makes his tenure all the more interesting. And so far he is one of the more intriguing displays of leadership work in the franchise. It's as if people want the same old "stronk hokage" thing we've seen so far. Imo his weakness makes way for his genius to shine and that is what people used to love about Shikamaru back in the chunin exams. But for some reason now people don't even want to explore that opportunity. A strong Hokage will make the story boring because nobody is gonna be strong enough when the Otsutsukis are involved. A smart hokage honestly is a great opportunity for the writer to make the story more complicated.
Shikamaru isn't really that weak, almost no one in the village is physically superior to him, he took a hit from Code. Like, maybe Rock Lee is stronger if his statement I've heard about from the Boruto Movie Novel is true. No other adult is strong enough to give him shit, except Konohamaru with the Rasengan or 8th Gate Might Guy, but he's in a wheelchair. Scaling is crazy. Also Kakashi.
 
Shikamaru isn't really that weak, almost no one in the village is physically superior to him, he took a hit from Code. Like, maybe Rock Lee is stronger if his statement I've heard about from the Boruto Movie Novel is true. No other adult is strong enough to give him shit, except Konohamaru with the Rasengan or 8th Gate Might Guy, but he's in a wheelchair. Scaling is crazy. Also Kakashi.
I mean I didn't really intend my comment to be about powerscalling, but yeah people wanted Sakura/Kakashi over Shikamaru. Sakura obviously can't be the Hokage because she is Sasuke's wife. Most people wanted Kakashi to be the next Hokage. Which is fine but Shikamaru is more interesting cuz he purely relies on his intellect while Kakashi will throw hands.

Also Shikamaru taking hits from code honestly can be attributed to the wonky scaling Boruto has in general. Shikamaru has been established in the novels as someone who is not Kage level. His entire character is based on someone who's greatest strength is his intelligence and not his actual physical strength. So I think in verse he would always be either a weak person or a jobber who can survive hits from strong people because he needs to be present at the locations where plot is happening, but he'll never actually have a legitimate battle or feat.

And Konohamaru might be the next Hokage but if they made him the Hokage rn people would have not taken him seriously at all.
 
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