Tdjwo
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Retcon. Another reason to hate Boruto.Kaguya got her third eye so no clue what that means.
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
HelloThere1089
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It means the Hags and Hams filler is retconned.Kaguya got her third eye so no clue what that means.
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Because the jump is completely out of nowhere and unexplained whereas before you had Kage like Tobirama and Minato getting absolutely fondled by the weakest Six Paths character
Kurotsuchi is going from below Deidara to above Hashirama?
Darui is going from tussling with Kinkaku and Ginkaku to above Hashirama?
And it's not like these characters became Jinchuriki or got a visit from Hagoromo, or whatever
HelloThere1089
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Blud is just mad that Hinata isn't busting planets with her fists.
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After years of training
And now Base Naruto is stronger than Momoshiki.
Yeah. Over a decade passed.
Again, a decade passed.
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Darui had years of training by Shippuden too
Naruto is somewhat explainable unlike the Kage
So what? A decade past and I'm supposed to take Kurotsuchi who was like an average jonin becoming more powerful almost all Kage in history seriously?
Without any explainable amplifications like Six Paths chakra or having a massive chakra beast sealed inside?
So what? A decade past and I'm supposed to take Darui who was like an somewhat above average jonin becoming more powerful almost all Kage in history seriously?
KaydeeX
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Don't ever call Kaguya Kags again
HelloThere1089
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That privilege is reserved only for Tenji
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I meant years of after Shippuden.
Explain. It's his BASE form.
It just happens, that's a Shonen staple.
Yeah. It happens. BASE Naruto and Sasuke are Otsutsuki level now. If Sasuke had no eyes, he'd still be stomping Hashirama with his bare hands. Hell, DMS Kakashi was just Kakashi with another eye.
Yes.
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Doesn't matter, he had years of training before Shippuden
Because he's a certified Six Paths level character, and he can transfer Kurama/Six Paths chakra even in base.
It's still stupid, and I'm not taking it seriously. It's shit writing
DMS Kakashi was also shit writing but at least the boost in power was attempted to be justified through Obito's Dojutsu being enhanced by Six Paths Chakra
Then you have Kage and the justification is "hurr durr Darui lifted some weights for a few years, Kurotsuchi did some squats"
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Years MORE training.
Doesn't matter. His depowered base, at half chakra, can basically beat down Otsutsuki with his bare hands.
You have the Kage, Kakashi, and Sakura. We don't know what they did offscreen, and Gaara clearly has Accelerated Development, seeing as how he went from getting beaten down by Madara to landing that TSB scaling.
Tdjwo
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KAGS!!!!!!
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Mfs been complaining bout the same shit for years
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And I'll keep complaining for the next 10 years too
HelloThere1089
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It was never canon in the first place
HelloThere1089
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Exactly.It was never canon in the first place
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Idk why the Kage are scaling, it never made any sense to me. Naruto and Sasuke only got to Six Path’s level via SPC. For them, training and getting stronger than when they fought Kaguya makes sense.
To suggest people who were weaker than BM Naruto, LET ALONE Hashirama are now “magically” his superior w/o ANY explanation ain’t right.
Even looking at the feats:
1.) Kurosuchi off-guarded and pushed Kinshiki away. Kinshiki has 0 Damage after and is more so irritated.
2.) Chojirou did not clash swords. Kinshiki knocked his sword away, cut him across the chest and was winding up for the kill when Kurosuchi surprised him.
3.) Chojirou’s Jutsu pierces Chakra Points and DISRUPTS Chakra Flow. Kinshiki’s strength was NERFED before Kurotsuchi stacked her Ash-Sealing Jutsu ontop.
4.) All Darui did was keep up with Momoshiki’s flight speed and swung his sword. Momoshiki blocked his attack.
Nothing actually scales them to the Otsutsuki and they go out of their way to showcase sequences where they are nerfed.
To suggest people who were weaker than BM Naruto, LET ALONE Hashirama are now “magically” his superior w/o ANY explanation ain’t right.
Even looking at the feats:
1.) Kurosuchi off-guarded and pushed Kinshiki away. Kinshiki has 0 Damage after and is more so irritated.
2.) Chojirou did not clash swords. Kinshiki knocked his sword away, cut him across the chest and was winding up for the kill when Kurosuchi surprised him.
3.) Chojirou’s Jutsu pierces Chakra Points and DISRUPTS Chakra Flow. Kinshiki’s strength was NERFED before Kurotsuchi stacked her Ash-Sealing Jutsu ontop.
4.) All Darui did was keep up with Momoshiki’s flight speed and swung his sword. Momoshiki blocked his attack.
Nothing actually scales them to the Otsutsuki and they go out of their way to showcase sequences where they are nerfed.
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Make a god dang CRT at this point please.
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Nah, I’m good… I’ll support one though.
MinatoSparkle
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Way to miss the context.
These statements are referencing the fact that adding the chakra of Indra and Asura results in the manifestation of Hagoromo's own chakra, and leads to Rinnegan manifestation. The same Rinnegan that Hagoromo possessed. It's a genetics thing.
But someone like Madara, who awakened the Rinnegan this way, still did not possess Six Paths chakra yet. Having a Rinnegan on its own does not grant SPC.
Another thing is that not all Rinnegan are the same. Momoshiki's Rinnegan has absolutely nothing to do with the one that stems from Hagoromo, and they share none of the abilities. Even the chakra absorption-type ability works differently. They literally have nothing in common. Same goes for Urashiki's Rinnegan(s). It works very differently and posseses different abilities.
You need to understand that outside of the general Otsutsuki physiology stuff (flight, Kāma, etc), these people have different and unique abilities. This makes sense because they evolve themselves by consuming different planets' genetic material, which would logically lead to different powers.
Are we just supposed to ignore the fact that these other Otsutsuki who are unrelated to Kaguya's bloodline not exhibiting any of these abilities? Not only did they showcase quite literally none of them, but it was never stated or implied either.
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Idk, Darui swung once and Momoshiki went "DAMN!"
Meanwhile, Gaara set up a series of platforms faster than Momo was moving, and blocked Fused Momo for a bit, almost as well as Base Naruto.
Also, the Kage seem a bit too confident to not know what they're doing, and that means something here, because they saw how good an Otsutsuki is.
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So uh, Sandman Broly
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Famous last words.
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Finna make a CRT that's just a minor format change just to spite you.
Unironically though, I'm mostly just sandboxing minor characters that aren't on here.
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Testarossa002/Chojuro
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I like it, especially the Part 2 scaling, which we should use for Zetsu's profile. However, I would like it if there were some jutsu listed in his Water Style section. Unless there's a bunch of nameless ones, at which point I'm talking out of my ass.Testarossa002/Chojuro
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I had this saved in case this day ever came...Testarossa002/Chojuro
Testarossa002
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He didn't use water style during the war
He used as a kage though
Some vortex stuff
I'll try and find the details
I'll add this
Anything else with the profile?
Testarossa002
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Kuro's attack was coated with earth style iirc
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Yeah, I got something for Part II AP. Gimme like an hour to get back to my PC.
Excellence616
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Kakashi CRT
Kamui Raikiri is currently treated as being hax in its entirety with no AP implication. Here’s the Databook entry for the jutsu Kamui Raikiri (Kamui Lightning Cutter)* Ninjutsu, Kekkei Genkai An enhanced version of Kakashi’s original Ninjutsu. It is a Raikiri imbued with the power of Kamui. A...
