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Konan literally says that Senju and Uchiha DNA combining on its own creates Six Paths power, and Obito implicitly agrees.Way to miss the context.
These statements are referencing the fact that adding the chakra of Indra and Asura results in the manifestation of Hagoromo's own chakra, and leads to Rinnegan manifestation. The same Rinnegan that Hagoromo possessed. It's a genetics thing.
But someone like Madara, who awakened the Rinnegan this way, still did not possess Six Paths chakra yet. Having a Rinnegan on its own does not grant SPC.
Yes, the same is true of stuff like different MS users. They're all the MS, but they grant different abilities. The conditions for attaining them are still the same.Another thing is that not all Rinnegan are the same. Momoshiki's Rinnegan has absolutely nothing to do with the one that stems from Hagoromo, and they share none of the abilities. Even the chakra absorption-type ability works differently. They literally have nothing in common. Same goes for Urashiki's Rinnegan(s). It works very differently and posseses different abilities.
Kaguya also didn't display a lot of abilities she should logically have like TSOs and most of the Rinnegan abilities, I wouldn't say that means she doesn't have them. Otsutsuki just don't really fight that optimally.You need to understand that outside of the general Otsutsuki physiology stuff (flight, Kāma, etc), these people have different and unique abilities. This makes sense because they evolve themselves by consuming different planets' genetic material, which would logically lead to different powers.
Are we just supposed to ignore the fact that these other Otsutsuki who are unrelated to Kaguya's bloodline not exhibiting any of these abilities is just a coincidence? Not only did they showcase quite literally none of them, but it was never stated or implied either.
Shibai getting the abilities of the cyborgs makes sense but there's no reason he should get the abilities of all other known Õtsutsuki or Shinjutsu.And we know all his abilities are just Shinjutsu, so he gets the abilities of basically all Otsutsuki, who's abilities are Shinjutsu, and the Cyborgs
He should get any ability under the name of ShinjutsuShibai getting the abilities of the cyborgs makes sense but there's no reason he should get the abilities of all other known Õtsutsuki or Shinjutsu.
Sparkle, don't be a goon. The first one is in reference to Creation of All Things (Izanagi on crack), the Madara thing is in reference to the Rinnegan.Konan literally says that Senju and Uchiha DNA combining on its own creates Six Paths power, and Obito implicitly agrees.
The difference is that we know how the MS is attained. We don't know how these other Otsutsuki get their Rinnegan.Yes, the same is true of stuff like different MS users. They're all the MS, but they grant different abilities. The conditions for attaining them are still the same.
She does have TSOs, she literally used one...Kaguya also didn't display a lot of abilities she should logically have like TSOs and most of the Rinnegan abilities, I wouldn't say that means she doesn't have them. Otsutsuki just don't really fight that optimally.
He has self sustenance type 1 on his new era profile.Why isn't there (space survival) on Naruto's profile?
yaIirc Indra invented Ninjutsu. Then any and all jutsu used before him was just Shinjutsu right? Infinite Tsukuyomi, Ash bones, SPCT, ETSB, Momoshiki's abilities, Isshiki's abilities, Kaguya's abilities, Hagoromo's and Hamura's abilities, Toneri's abilities etc? All of these should be Shinjutsu (retcon). Takes a lot of hype away from the Shinjutsu tbh.
They ain't, but there's a ton of things pointing in that direction.They aren't confirmed to be shinjutsu tho.
because shinjutsu didnt exist back thenThey aren't confirmed to be shinjutsu tho.
I doubt that. Shinjutsu is introduced as something so godly only a select few otsutsuki have it. In Shippuden, even Madara used Infinte Tsukiyomi. Ash Killing bone is a Kekkei Mora. Anything that has "Kekkei" in it is gotten from the combination of chakra elements along with Yin and Yang. Shinjutsu is supposed to have nothing to do with chakra elements.They ain't, but there's a ton of things pointing in that direction.
That's literally false lmao. Shinjutsu is achieved through the manipulation of chakra.I doubt that. Shinjutsu is introduced as something so godly only a select few otsutsuki have it. In Shippuden, even Madara used Infinte Tsukiyomi. Ash Killing bone is a Kekkei Mora. Anything that has "Kekkei" in it is gotten from the combination of chakra elements along with Yin and Yang. Shinjutsu is supposed to have nothing to do with chakra elements.
Did I say it wasn't achieved via chakra manipulation? I said shinjutsu has nothing to do with the chakra nature's like Wind, water, fire, lightning, Yin and yang, etc. It's supposed to be an entirely new concept.That's literally false lmao. Shinjutsu is achieved through the manipulation of chakra.
These ****** are Midgets
This is never stated. It's never stated that only a select few otsutsuki have it.Shinjutsu is introduced as something so godly only a select few otsutsuki have it.
It's never stated that shinjutsu has nothing to do with elements. Neither has it been stated that Ninjutsu has to have elements in it. Example: rasengan.Ash Killing bone is a Kekkei Mora. Anything that has "Kekkei" in it is gotten from the combination of chakra elements along with Yin and Yang. Shinjutsu is supposed to have nothing to do with chakra elements.
It is literally said to be what ninjutsu tries to imitate. It's a wild claim to say it has got nothing to do with chakra natures.It's supposed to be an entirely new concept.
Being kekkei doesn't mean it can't be Shinjutsu. It has obviously been retconned because ash bones are called ninjutsu but the timelines don't match.Ash Killing bone and ETSB all fall under "Kekkei" which is the combination of either more than one element or all elements including Yin/Yang.
Then there's Creation of All Things, aka. Omnipotence Lite lmao
I love it when commas are used. It makes it 100x more funny
I love it when commas are used. It makes it 100x more funny
Wait, how does the blade go from 6-C to 5-C... Can it get stronger?.Testarossa002/Chojuro
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Wait...are you telling me Samehada is 5-C?Wait, how does the blade go from 6-C to 5-C... Can it get stronger?.
Wait...are you telling me Samehada is 5-C?
Retcons...retcons everywhere.This can definitely be classified as a Shinjutsu though, and its something all Otsutsuki can do...
[Classfication:] Ninjutsu, Kekkei Mōra
[Name:] Yomotsu Hirasaka
[User:] Kaguya Ōtsutsuki
With an instant unfulfilled moment, she emerges from the gates of the underworld!!
Creating holes in the air and freely traversing within the six spaces she controls, this can be called the original spacetime ninja art. It resembles "Kamui," but it is activated without the use of seals or any preparatory movements. The destination is within the same space, regardless of whether it is a different space. Moreover, it is possible to drag others into a separate space. It can be utilized in evasion, disturbance, and surprise attacks in various situations, but mastering it would likely be challenging for anyone other than Kaguya, who possesses all three major dojutsu.
Dodging the enemy's attack while simultaneously circling around to their back in an instant! Truly, a master of space manipulation.
Always has been. That's why it left that idiot shark.
Idiot Shark vs Samehada circa 2010
Guess that's enough of a reason.Anyways a simple cope for how Hiramekarei got trillions of times stronger is because its takes in the chakra of the user, so if the user is stronger than the sword will also be stronger
That would make chojuro and his nerd ass 5-CAnyways a simple cope for how Hiramekarei got trillions of times stronger is because its takes in the chakra of the user, so if the user is stronger than the sword will also be stronger
Yes, through Hiramekarei. We no longer scale physicals to chakra output by default.That would make chojuro and his nerd ass 5-C
The Naruto wiki says it stores chakra so eh.Guess that's enough of a reason.
That would make chojuro and his nerd ass 5-C
At least...for now...Yes, through Hiramekarei. We no longer scale physicals to chakra output by default.
Otsutsukis who have reached godhood are the ones who use Shinjutsu. And not every Otsutsuki has reached that. Not even Isshiki.Where do you keep pulling out these claims from? Damn.
This is never stated. It's never stated that only a select few otsutsuki have it.
Stop sprouting bs and read the damn. Manga. Amado specifically stated Shinjutsu has nothing to do with Ninjutsu AND even Sage artsIt's never stated that shinjutsu has nothing to do with elements. Neither has it been stated that Ninjutsu has to have elements in it. Example: rasengan.
I can't even make any logic out of this. Just because I'm trying to imitate Messi's playstyle, that doesn't automatically make me Messi.It is literally said to be what ninjutsu tries to imitate. It's a wild claim to say it has got nothing to do with chakra natures.
Nothing was retconned. You just can't think deeply enough. I don't see why Kishimoto would call a pre-existing concept another name when it supposedly means the same thing. Kekkei Genkai, Kekkei Tota and Kekkei mora are all bloodline limits. Shinjutsu isn't shown to be that way. Daemon, Eida, Code, Boruto and Kawaki (via Karma) are random ass people who got gifted Shinjutsu powers without any physical drawbacks like it would have been with anything that has the name, "Kekkei"Being kekkei doesn't mean it can't be Shinjutsu. It has obviously been retconned because ash bones are called ninjutsu but the timelines don't match.
Nah, both Sukunahikona and Daikokuten are Shinjutsu.Otsutsukis who have reached godhood are the ones who use Shinjutsu. And not every Otsutsuki has reached that. Not even Isshiki.